Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/09/15

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Subject: [Leica] Forbes article on mechanical wristwatches OFF TOPIC
From: Hoyen Tsang <htsang@email.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 04:36:22 -0400 (EDT)

If you consider Patek Philippe a "ritzy ditzy bozo watch maker" then I'm afraid you don't know watches very well...  Patek and A. Lange & Sohne are the current top echelon of watchmaking.  You simply can't find movements better finished or more aesthetically pleasing.  I also consider Blancpain, Jaeger-LeCoultre, and Audemars Piguet to be among the top.  My current dream watch, in fact, is the Patek "10 Days".

Keep in mind that "in-house movements" doesn't mean much these days.  There is a reason why Rolex doesn't allow tours of their factory, whereas real watch manufacturers like Blancpain often do.  It's assembly line manufacturing vs skilled craftsmanship.  I guess you can argue that Rolex caters to a totally different market than Patek and Lange do.  Apples and oranges.

Hoyen

Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 00:34:57 -0400
From: Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Leica] Forbes article on mechanical wristwatches
Message-ID: <39C1A6F1.1807001F@yahoo.com>
References: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10009141439320.17051-100000@stargate.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

Hi
Watches are an on and off hobby for me
There are very few swiss watch makers
still building their own movements.
These include Valjoux, Eta, Zenith
Rolex and a few of less important ones
Zenith* and Rolex use the movements in
their own watches leaving ETA and valjoux to supply
the industry. While different watches with diifferent brand names
may match for movement and caliber they will not necessarily
be of the same grade or build quality. Any of the movement builders will
hand select
parts for the movements if the watch maker is willing to pay the extra
$$$
Also, many watch makers like to massage and tweek the movements
a bit further for use in their top of the range watches.
So even though your swatch has the same movement as someone
else's speed master The speedmaster is likely to have a better balanced
balance wheel, and will likely have been adjusted in several positions
in temperature and humidity controlled environment. These extras
will pay off 25 years from now when the Speedmaster is still running,
perhaps a few minutes fast and the Swatch has long been thrown out
or perhaps used to supply parts for a speedmaster


*Zenith does on occasion supply other makers with movements
It provided Rolex with detuned rainbow movements for their early
daytonas.

See Ya
Javier

PS: Please don't tell me that I forgot to
mention Patek Phillip. I'm talking about
serious watch makers here, Not ritzy
ditzy bozo watch makers.

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