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Subject: RE: [Leica] Re: My last word on RF
From: Dan Cardish <dcardish@microtec.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:29:13 -0400
References: <4.1.20000912170721.02bc0e20@xsj02.sjs.agilent.com>

Jim has made a valid point.  There's nothing wrong with a "free marketplace
of ideas", but what does someone hope to accomplish by dissing Leicas on a
Leica enthusiast mailing list?  Some people just look for fights and aren't
really interested in "ideas".

Dan C.

At 08:46 PM 12-09-00 -0400, David Enzel wrote:
>This sure can be a tough group.  What ever happened to being open to a free
>marketplace of ideas?
>
>DAVID ENZEL
>Chevy Chase, Maryland
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Jim Brick
>Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 8:35 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us; leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Re: My last word on RF
>
>After all, the charter of this list is "Leica." And if you don't find Leica
>very much fun, perhaps you should find a list that is NOT a Leica list.
>
>And, after all, pining eloquently about the virtues of the Hexar on a Leica
>list is like raving about Fuji film on a Kodak list. Or about Toyotas on a
>BMW list.
>
>So, on the "match-needle metering and out of curiosity, which M camera were
>you speaking about?
>
>Jim
>
>ps... an M camera with a RapidWinder is very stealthy, very fast, and very
>left eye friendly. Just ask Ted, who only has a left eye, and has produced
>one of the greatest B&W Leica coffee table books available today, and
>shoots his M camera professionally, day in, day out, and is at this moment,
>giving his famous Cape Cod Leica Workshop on left eyed M'manship.
>
>
>At 06:34 PM 9/12/00 -0400, Dante Stella wrote:
>>
>>I didn't find the M-body experience too fun.  Underbody loading and
>>match-needle metering don't really do it for me.  They take away from the
>>fun of taking pictures.
>>
>>The Hexar attracts nothing but attacks.  They all center around "quality"
>>and "precision" and whatnot.  I think the attacks are partly the proximity
>>of the RF to Leica's signature body line, and partly due to resentment at
>>Leica for not coming out with it first.  When it comes down to it, as long
>>as full manual control is available, there is no rational argument to be
>>made that the availability of automation is a menace or a burden or
>>whatnot.  There is not much argument to be made that having a higher top
>>shutter speed is irrelevant or an impediment, or that it is never
>>necessary to synch at 1/125 of a second.  Many of these criticisms are
>>best addressed as sour grapes.
>>
>>Dante
>
>
>

Replies: Reply from Thomas Kachadurian <tom@kachadurian.com> (RE: [Leica] Re: My last word on RF)
In reply to: Message from Jim Brick <jim_brick@agilent.com> ([Leica] Re: My last word on RF)