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Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM and Sailing
From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:04:04 -0700

Congrats on a good deal! I also have been intrigued by the LTM Leicas. The
desire is purely physical‹what beautiful cameras‹ and I have been able to
control it so far as my actual photo needs are met by my Ms. I would love a
IIIF-ST with the IIIG shutter speeds but I do not know if this is possible.
Maybe I do not want to know.

John Collier

> From: "steve lehuray" <icommag@toad.net>
> 
> John,
> This is almost silly that I am so confident about this particular point I
> must sound arrogant, which I am not. But, I have to tell you that I really
> became very facinated with the Leica LTM cameras from books and from LTM
> owners here on the LUG. I knew when the chance came I would get one and last
> November while browsing at PENN Camera in DC they had one, which after
> refusing to leave until they took my $800 offer I had one which included a
> 135mm Hector. I ordered a 50mm Summitar the same day from Sam Soshan. Then
> the 111G sat on my kitchen table for a week before I built up the courage to
> try and load it. The whole strategy was slow and easy. So after easing the
> spool and cassette into the body I gently wiggled the film advance until I
> could feel that it had caught, I then slowly advanced it one frame and then
> took the slack out of the cassette and advanced it 2 more frames. Mopped my
> brow, phew, that was'nt so bad. Since then the dozen or so rolls has been
> the same story. But I am going to try trimming the leader and see what
> happens. BTW I love the look that the Summitar gives.
> Steve
> Annapolis
> 
> ----------
>> From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM and Sailing
>> Date: Fri, Mar 3, 2000, 2:03 PM
>> 
> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> I too am quite light on equipment so I understand what you mean. However,
>> every now and then, The "Hand Of G**" strikes me down and I have learned to
>> take all reasonable precautions. I know that you must have prepared and
>> maintained your boats carefully and I am the same way with my cars. If you
>> do what should be done then, surprisingly to some people, everything goes
>> well. I think of the leader trimming advice as this kind of prep.
>> 
>> John Collier
>> 
>>> From: "steve lehuray" <icommag@toad.net>
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> I did not wish to sound arrogant but loading my 111G so far has been very
>>> trouble free the way I have been doing without trimming the leader anymore
>>> than it already is. I might add that I have all my life had a very delicate
>>> touch with mechanical things and I don't break things: formula race cars,
>>> many years and thousands of laps with very rare breakage; ocean single
>>> handed sailing, thousands of miles in the Atlantic in all kinds of weather
>>> and nothing has ever broken; my Nikons, have never seen service; my MAC
>>> always boots up. So, with all due respect to you and Marc and Sherry some
>>> people are born klutzes and some are blessed with the 'touch'. Loading a
>>> Leica LTM could be tricky but if I were to 'feel' something amiss I would
>>> stop and try a different way. I suspect that the 4" trim rule came from
>>> Leitz antiquity where a Leica 'born klutz' engineer probably had fat
>>> fingers.
>>> Steve
>>> Annapolis
>>> 
>>> ----------
>>>> From: John Collier <jbcollier@home.com>
>>>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM
>>>> Date: Fri, Mar 3, 2000, 10:12 AM
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I know how Marc and Sherry feel. An expert just cannot get any respect in
>>>> their hometown. Many times I have told my customers to do (or not to do)
>>>> something and they have given me that laughing, knowing smile. I wish I
>>>> could say they were as cheerful later on. I glad to hear that you have had
>>>> the camera so long that you can disregard advice from people who have
>>>> decades of experience and are trying to do you a favour!
>>>> 
>>>> John Collier
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "steve lehuray" <icommag@toad.net>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marc,
>>>>> I appreciate the warning, which I have also gotten from Sherry Krauter and
>>>>> she threatened me with charging me double to clean out the film chips when
>>>>> the 111G jams up because I have not done the trimming thing. But the way
>>>>> that I have been loading it has been so simple and trouble free I have had
>>>>> no motive to try trimming the leader. BTW, I have two M's and several
> Nikons
>>>>> but I really love using this LTM even with the dual eyepieces which is
>>>>> very
>>>>> easy to adapt to. It's a jewel and I am glad I bought it a few months ago.
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> Annapolis
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----------
>>>>>> From: Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net>
>>>>>> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Loading LTM
>>>>>> Date: Thu, Mar 2, 2000, 2:10 PM
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 11:35 AM 3/2/2000 -0500, Skip Williams wrote:
>>>>>>> I never cut my leaders, and I don't have any problem loading my IIIx
>>>>>>> Leicas.  It's just one more hassle and anal thing, as far as I'm
>>>>>>> concerned.  (and god knows, I have enough anal habits as it is!)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, if you don't trim the leader, you run a fairly substantial risk of
>>>>>> having a bit of the leader chip off on a gear and work its way into your
>>>>>> camera's innards, requiring professional assistance to get it out again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marc
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> msmall@roanoke.infi.net  FAX:  +540/343-7315
>>>>>> Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir!
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>