Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/12/26

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Subject: [Leica] wtb & fs ads
From: "Rod Fleming" <rodfleming@sol.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:48:21 -0000

Hi

I've not been a member very long either, but I have been a subscriber to
mailing lists for a number of years, and I'd like to make a couple of
comments.

Brian Reid clearly takes a very laid back approach. I find this is very
pleasant, and I heartily commend him for it. Three cheers! The LUG compares
very well with other groups I've been a subscriber to-  in fact, I have come
to the view that heavy moderation by the Admin makes for a more unruly
group, rather than the other way round! Maybe when people are left alone to
exercise their commonsense and sense of responsibility, they do so; or maybe
Leica users are just nicer.......I dunno.

As for the specific subject, Brian is doing fine; he's let us know his
preferences, so let's respect them.  How often is it that  you really,
really can't wait a few days before putting a bit of kit up for sale? But
this is a cool group, and so if anyone has a user M3 in perfect working
order but ugly as they come for $200 and they absolutely  have to sell it
before Friday, then post it, please! Thanks to Brian's relaxed approach such
commonsense flexibility is possible and I hope it will remain so.

If the situation becomes such that action really has to be taken then my
suggestion would be that commercial (or semi-commercial) subscribers should
be strictly restricted first, and non-commercial left more open- so if you
were a genuine amateur trying to sell no more than, say, 3 items, that would
still be okay to post anytime, bearing in mind my comment above. . It is
pretty clear that the standard clauses about "no commercial use" of this
facility are being flouted- but then there are perfectly valid reasons for
allowing specialist dealers the space, which have been rehearsed already,
and which I don't propose to go into now. I am not a dealer, but I am a pro,
and I would therefore restrict myself to Fridays (have done so far)  on
principle; my observation so far is that the commercial posters (if they are
that) seem to do likewise.

The arrangement makes sense- if you're on the lookout for kit, you know to
keep the peepers peeled on Friday- a bit like searching the classifieds in
the local paper.

No-one should abuse the very relaxed character of this List. Neither should
we ask Brian, our generous host, to do more work on our behalf, which would
be the certain result of a stricter policy. I'm pretty sure he's busy
enough, so self restraint and commonsense has to be the order of the day
IMHO.

As an aside, there are a some issues which are quite clearly hotspots for
the US subscribers; here are a few- tax, the Constitution, Government, gun
law. I've known lists where a complete ban on these topics was firmly
enforced...........I'm not advocating that, but perhaps I might encourage a
moment's reflection on whether it really is absolutely necessary to make (or
respond to) a particular point before sending a post on one of these
topics - to an international forum about cameras!


Cheers


Rod