Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/12/05

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M6 meter (defected version)
From: "Jerry S. Justianto" <jsjm6@cbn.net.id>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 13:38:49 +0700

When I visited Soho in NYC, tehre is one photographer his name is Robert
Chan mention that my M6 probably have defects in metering, which is 1-2
stops under exposure.
He told me that Leica had recalled those M6s and fixed them.

Anyone heard this news before?

Thanks,
Jerry S. Justianto

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Eno <eno22@enter.net>
To: <leica-users-digest@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] M6 meter


> I won't speak for Ted of course, but I disagree.  Definitely fair to say
but
> exposure nirvana (fun!) is something you achieve much later, after the
shot
> is taken.  Or you then confirm it.  I almost always shoot with quick even
> arrows, all slow slides - contrasty, and when I hit that 'exposure'
> satisfaction level I'm...satisfied for sure but I can rarely attribute any
> metering techniques that justify the outcome.  I know it happens enough
that
> it's not pure chance, but a meter that's just 'good enough' stop kvetching
> and shoot...
> Then I've spent much time on a shot, back ache, and so on and tried hard
and
> then was disappointed - a waste of time and frustrating.  If I were to
> pursue the latter I think it would amount to less satisfaction in terms of
> results.
> In any case one should do the former (just adjust) whenever possible.
> Animated subjects don't really make a difference.
>
> as a side note:
> I haven't shot anyone in a while (please don't snip here).  "I'm
documenting
> the human condition".  Ohh... I am lucky to be in that position.  What I
> should do is when I take a picture of a stranger who looks annoyed I
should
> 'at least' offer him the camera so that I can be part of such an important
> analysis too.  "The photographer should be invisible"  yeah for the
> audience.  Otherwise wear that amendment flag in case you come across as
> personally offensive.  Most likely people running to take people
ictures  -
> with all serious intent - look like an ass making an ass out of himself.
>
>
> <<<
>
> Come on, Ted. Wouldn't it be fair to say that, if yoy're seeking exposure
> nirvana, a hand-held meter is always the tool to use. But if you want to
get
> photographs in real life - i.e., of animate objects - just adjust for the
> red light and shoot? :-)
>
> B.D.
> >>>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ted Grant
> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 1:54 PM
> > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] M6 meter
> >
> >
> > Mark Rutledge wrote:
> >
> > <<<<<The meter in the M6 is compelling, but the only info I
> > can find on the
> > metered area is that it is "selective". Is this somewhere
> > between spot and
> > centerweighted? If it is more spot, by the time you figured
> > what is 18%
> > gray in the scene, wouldn't it be just as quick to use a
> > handheld and get a
> > much less expensive M2,4-2,4P,? Any feedback is welcome.>>>>
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > This is how I generally use my M6's and without any thought
> > of whether it's
> > selective or not.
> >
> > I see, focus, adjust aperture or shutter speed dial, red
> > lights on.....SHOOT!:)
> >
> > If you stop to think where the area is that is being metered,
> > it's over and
> > you've missed the photograph.
> >
> > Keep it simple!  I'm sure others will give you the technical
> > aspects, but I
> > can assure you using the in camera meter is much much faster
> > by far than
> > fiddling with a hand meter.  Not that there aren't times when the hand
> > meter is the right tool. Rarely.
> >
> > ted
> >
> > Ted Grant
> > This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> > http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
> >
>
>
>