Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/10/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] B&W film: Ilford vs. TMax
From: "Jonathan Borden" <jborden@mediaone.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 23:10:12 -0400

Ted,

	Thanks so much for pointing out the obvious, you have a real gift! Just ran
a batch of TMZ @ 3200 in Tmax with lots of agitation and it works like a
charm, nice fat (relatively speaking) negatives :-)). This post is a real
gem.

Jonathan Borden

>
>
> Hi Godfrey,
>
> Like wise myself at the beginning........just couldn't get it to work! But
> then the light came on:  "I read the  instructions!"  And unlike Frank
> Sinatra, I stopped "Doing it my way!" And did it "their way"!!! Surprise!
> What do we have here! Beauty negs and prints! Nice big 16 X 20's.
>
>   "Why would KODAK spend thousands of dollars experimenting the
> development
> of this film, telling me "How it should be done" and then me not follow
> their instructions? Then whine about it being a "no good film"  So I
> started developing exactly as in the instructions.
>
> The beginning of successful use of TMax:
>
> OK exposure:
>
> I rate it exactly what they call it:  TMax "400" out doors and TMax "800"
> indoors.  Meter straight through the M6, R 7 or 8. Red lights come on
> "PRESS BUTTON, TAKE PICTURE!":)  Remember..."keep it simple!" It's a no
> brainer with a Leica!
>
> Whether the TMax 400 is rated at 400 or 800, it is given exactly same time
> and temps!
>
> Darkroom preparation: Lights on...developer poured in tank, 75 degrees.
> Lights out, load stainless steel reels plunge reels into tank, lid on,
> timer on, lights on!  "AGITATE VIGOROUSLY!"
>
>  "TEMPERATURE OF DEVELOPER" (1 dev: 4 water)  75 degrees for 6 minutes!
> exactly like in the book! Same time and development for 400 or 800.  The
> reason it works best at higher temp is due to the viscosity of the liquid
> developer...it's like syrup, hotter temp allows it to thin out and work
> better over the emulsion.
>
>  "AGITATION!":     "Vigorously" is the operative word! Most of us learned
> to "agitate gently," tap tank on table etc etc. Well folks that smoothie
> system doesn't work with TMax....100 - 400 - 3200.
>
> Shake 'er a good one for the first 15 secs! yeah I know some are going to
> say things like "hot areas around sprocket holes etc"...it doesn't happen
> unless you go crazy. And at least 3 or 4 quick inversions every 30 secs
> until time over.
>
> I don't use stop bath: Times up.  In the dark....lid off... developer
> dumped. Fixer "exactly same temperature" is poured to fill tank
> quickly ...
> lid on and then shake the hell out of the tank for 2 or 3
> minutes. Lid off,
> check negs, back into fix to complete time. Total fix time...about 5 mins.
>
> All temps are maintained 75 degrees, washing as well. After 10 changes of
> running water (tank fills dump water fill again)  Hypo eliminator (1 oz)
> "OK one quick gurgle" agitate well for 45 - 60 secs. dump! ........fill
> tank running water...2-3 minutes...dump water refill and use wetting
> agent...very carefully, only a few drops.... Agitate tank, dump and plunge
> reel into clean water and out immediately....removes excess wetting agent.
>
> As each reel is removed for drying, hold reel tightly in hand and snap the
> wrist action in downward motion to floor, removing excess water..
> Then hang
> to dry.
>
> Of late, due to interest of Ilford film discussions on the LUG, I
> have been
> trying it....very interesting...have to try more before I get the "real
> good feel for it" Simply because, TMax really works for me. :)
>
> Anyway, there is gang, one method for TMax films.....Don't forget, what
> works for me may not be your cup of tea!!
>
> ted
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> Ted Grant
> This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
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