Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:04:42 -0700 >From: Paul Chefurka <Paul_Chefurka@pmc-sierra.com> >Subject: RE: [Leica] Ted's outcry > >I don't know if anyone has noticed, but IMO Anthony's output has become both >more restrained and more reasonable over the past few days. Give the guy a >break - he'll settle in here in his own way and on his own terms. If some >regulars are upset by a flood of questions, commentary and strong opinions >from a newbie, they should look not only to his actions but to their own >reactions as well - the LUG is not simply a preserve for the technically >sophisticated, the socially adept and the deferential. This is still the >net, remember - the last bastion of egalitarianism and free speech. >Especially on an unmoderated list like this. > >It's good to aspire to ascending to a higher level of discourse, but there >has to be room in this world for the questions of the uninformed. If those >are not permitted, the only way a neophyte has of acquiring enlightenment is >to sit and read - hoping that the masters will by some chance hand out the >desired tablets. And before someone says "What about the archives?", I will >point out that as far as I can tell the LUG hasn't been archived since May >8. > >Paul Chefurka > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Erwin Puts [mailto:imxputs@knoware.nl] >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:29 AM >> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Subject: [Leica] Ted's outcry >> >> >> I do sympathize with Ted's advise to Anthony to take a break and >> start taking pictures. It is really easy as Ted noticed and Horst has >> given almost all tips one needs to make a decent slew of photographs. >> As long as Luggers feel inclined to react to Anthony's curious mix of >> technical naivety and strong views on every (technical) aspect of >> photography, we will never ascend to a higher level. May I humbly >> suggest that we all make one default answer to all posts from >> Anthony, as below: >> " >> Buy a beginners book and read it. Try Osterloh: Leica M Technique. >> There are excellent bookshops in Paris. Then take photographs for a >> full month, carefully note what you did and what went wrong. Then buy >> a second more advanced book. Study your mistakes. Take pictures for >> two months. Carefully etc. Restrain yourself to one email a week to >> the Lug. People there will have the expertise and knowledge to answer >> this question. It will benefit all and we may stop all people from >> unsubscribing. >> " >> >> Erwin >> >> ############## My comment : I agree entirely with Paul. The LUG is NOT a scientific discussion group for egg-head types only. The LUG is, as Paul wrote above, "the last bastion of egalitarianism and free speech". We are all bound by our love/hate relation with Leica from beginners to experts. No "big brother" in order to say : "if you're X, it's all right ; if you're Y, stick around ; if you're Z, get back" Dominique