Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/24

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Subject: Re: Re: [Leica] RE: Intermediate aperture settings and the case Anthony
From: Dominique.Pellissier@droit-eco.univ-nancy2.fr (Dominique PELLISSIER)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:55:14 +0200

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>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:25:27 GMT
>From: chefurka@sympatico.ca (Paul Chefurka)
>Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Intermediate aperture settings
>
>>> ... Now I'm getting fed up too!
>>
>>Wow!  This thread started out as a simple enough question (from a
>>Leica newbie), unambiguously stated, that could have benefited from
>>a straightforward answer.  The resulting voluminous traffic has been
>>mostly of the self-important, intolerant, and factually questionable
>>sort that is all too prevalent on the LUG these days.
>>
>>Why not just answer the question, or ignore it, but leave out the
>>personal remarks and clever innuendo?  I have to admire Anthony for
>>staying with his question until he gets a satisfactory answer, and
>>ignoring attempts to personalize the matter along the way.
>
>You're right, in fact.  As the poster of the little slam that leads
>off this post, I apologize to Anthony and to the rest of the LUG for
>letting my irritation get the better of me.  Anthony, I'm sorry I did
>that.
>
>Things that seems so simple to those of us who have used Leicas for a
>while may be totally unknown to someone coming from the current
>environment of computer-controlled, motor-driven cameras.  It's all
>too easy to forget that we all started learning somewhere, and that
>when we started we too did not possess more than the most basic
>information about our new-found interest.
>
>The LUG is one of the greatest concentrations of Leica expertise per
>square electron on the surface of this planet.  If we want Leica
>cameras to have an enthusiastic following until the M3's start to wear
>out (around the end of the next century) it behooves us all to
>remember that we are ambassadors both for the marque and for the art
>of photography in general.
>
>While I have tried to answer Anthony's questions civilly and factually
>both here and on r.p.e.35mm where he first started wondering about the
>purchase, I must admit that recently I've let myself get somewhat
>worked up over inconsequential issues.  As civilized human beings we
>should always strive to rise above those impulses, and on this
>occasion I succumbed.
>
>I regret doing that, as it lowers the tone of the LUG (we've already
>seen a couple of unsubscriptions as a result) and it is disrespectful
>to someone who did nothing more than ask questions whose answers I
>felt to be too obvious.  Altogether not the right way to treat your
>fellow man - especially one who has already shown the good taste to
>buy an M6 and 35/2 ASPH to complement his Nikons.
>
>As an aside, Anthony, I must say I've been impressed with your ability
>to maintain your poise in the face of some of the things that have
>been tossed in your direction recently.  Those exchanges reflect far
>better on you than they do on your antagonists.
>
>Paul Chefurka
>
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I have sympathy for a victim but just a question : why did Anthony get the
sack from the Nikon users group ?

Dominique Pellissier