Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/03/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There is IMHO a real photographic reason to compare Canon and leica : they both make F/1.0 lenses. Do some of you have experience with both? TIA, Thib. At 11:59 02/03/1999 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Robert, > >Thanks for pointing that out. I agree that tests point to how well an optic >may perform but its the user that determines if it meets their own criteria. > >One comment, Canon's newer lens is the 70-200 F2.8L, unfortunately is rates >a 4.1 vs. the older 80-200 F2.8L which rated slightly better at 4.2 is on >par with the Leica 80-200 F4 Vario-Elmar, which incidentally I verified >with Leica as being made in Japan by Kyocera. I didn;t want to risk the >flames having been burned so often. > >BTW, adding to your reference "who needs Velvia," last year when I was in >India, I was shooting in Agra (city of the Taj Mahal) and I had Velvia >loaded when I arrived at the Taj Mahal around 10 AM. It was an overcast day >unfortunately, but as I was looking at the Taj someone was looking over me >because the sun peaked out for only about 2 minutes illuminating the white >Taj. I had 2 cameras with me. The Velvia shots came out beautiful except >it reproduced the white Taj much warmer than it appeared (Velvia does this >to white making them green/grayish) and looking as if it were dirty white. >The other camera loaded with print film showed the Taj as it should look, >beautifully white. Wish I had Agfa RSX loaded in the camera instead of >Velvia that day. I know for fact it produces whites as white not off-white >as with Fuji and Kodak Ektachrome. > >Peter K > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert G. Stevens [mailto:robsteve@istar.ca] >Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8:47 AM >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >Subject: [Leica] Leica zoom lens test > > >Peter: >In regards to the Leica Telephoto zooms, you may have mistakenly looked up >the older Leica 70-210 which was Minolta made. It was a fine lens, but the >new design is much better. The old 70-210 rated a score of 3.3, while the >newer 80-200 rates at 4.2. The 4.2 rating is better than Canon's 70-200 >2.8 lens and on par with Canon's new 80-200L lens. It also surpasses the >Nikkors which only rated 4.0. This would make the Leica a fine performer >even though it is a pretty conservative F4 lens. Even the older 70-210 >Minolta made lens rated pretty high amongst its peers if you exclude the >2.8 lenses. > >If the Leica's lowly 80-200 F4 can best or match the best from the >competition, I imagine the 70-180 would probably trounce them with a rating >in the 4.4 to 4.5 range. If you read Leica's literature, they tend to rate >their lenses in the descriptions. For example in Leica's latest >literature, they make no mention of the optical qualities of the 28-70, but >say it is easy and pleasant to use. The description of the 80-200 F4 says >it offers good to very good imaging quality. While they describe their 100 >APO macro as outstanding imaging performance. This 100 APO macro rated 4.5 >at photodo. All we need is the translation of these terms to a grading >scale. > >This all brings us back to the validity of ratings compared to use in the >field. I have seen a series of slides taken in China with the 28-70 that >definately had the Leica look to them. They were contrasty and sharp, with >great colours. As I have said before, who needs Velvia, when you have >Leica glass to provide the saturation and contrast? > >Regards, > >Robert > > > At 07:47 AM 3/2/99 -0800, you wrote: >>I checked Photodo and it appears that the lens is the 28-70mm F3.5-4.5 >which >>I believe is made by Sigma. Interesting to note that this lens and the >>70-200 F4 whicg I believe is a Kyocera made lens, both test below the Leica >>made lenses. As Mr. Spock would say, "..Fascinating." >> >>Peter K >>SD dujour >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Eric Welch [mailto:ewelch@ponyexpress.net] >>Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 8:23 PM >>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >>Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG, Leica culture, lens testing and No BS >> >> >>At 07:29 PM 3/1/99 -0800, you wrote: >>>Take a look at the latest >>>Photodo.com test of the 28-70. >> >>Are you talking about the Leica 28-70 made by Sigma? >> >>Eric Welch >>St. Joseph, MO >>http://www.ponyexpress.net/~ewelch >> >>Computers can never replace human stupidity >> >> >> >> > >