Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/02/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE60EB.F0948980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dominique, I don't doubt that there are "shills" on the web. But do you have = knowledge that the post regarding the OM equipment was not someone's = honest opinion? I use my Leica's most, but don't feel put out if I have = to use my OM-1 or OM-4n. They are fine cameras with a great line of = lenses. I prefer range finders. But unless you are totally "Leica mad," = the value and quality of other brands must be acknowledged. And I think = very few viewers could sort out prints made with a 50 mm Summicron = ($900) and those made with a $40 Zuiko f1.8.=20 Sincerely, Joe Stephenson=20 -----Original Message----- From: Dominique PELLISSIER <pelliss@droit-eco.univ-nancy2.fr> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us = <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [Leica] olympus vs leica =20 =20 At 02:45 24/02/99 +0100, Guido wrote : >I'm also on the olympus list and I've recived this message any = comments about this: > > > >:Last month I bought an OM 4T body along with 28mm/f2.8, = 50mm/f1.4,50mm/f1.8, 50mm/f3.5 [macro], and 100mm/f2.8 lenses. They were = all second hand from an established camera dealer [which also happens to = be an official outlet for Leica, Nikon, and Hasselblad] so I felt = comfortable that I was dealing with a legitimate and reputable source of = supply.I have been using a Leica M3 since 1965 and am M5 since 1987 = along with 35mm, 50mm, 90mm, and 135mm Leitz lenses so know all about = sharp and brilliant prints and slides.I have shot reels of Agfa Optima = 100 ISO, Fuji Reala 100 ISO, and Kodak Portra VC 160 ISO through my OM = 4T at a tropical plant conservatory in Vancouver using only available = light coming through the domed glass roof. The outside weather ranged = from bright sunlight in almost clear blue skies to cloud and overcast = skies. The films were all processed at the same place. I have the = following observations: 1. The sharpness and brilliance of the photos at all points on the = prints using all fives lenses at varying speeds and apertures was not = one iota less than I would have expected from my Leitz lenses. There is = absolutely no lack of the depth or 3D effect in these Olympus photos and based = on this three film sample of experience I have to say that I can not = imagine any more superior performance from anywhere else. 5. I am *absolutely* sold on my Olympus equipment [the results are = every bit as good as those from the stuff made in Wetzlar or whereever!] = as well as VC 160 film for flowers and foliage in conditions like those = I experienced last week. Let's hear it for Olympus. ############# =20 I read some months ago in my newspaper Le Monde, the most serious = and respectable newspaper in France, an article on individuals who are = paid by companies in order to be "black" or "white knight" on the web.It = is a new form of economic war using disinformation. By repeating and commenting these messages, we are innocent = accomplices of these manipulations. =20 Dominique Pellissier > > > >thanks in advance > Guido Ridoli > LEICA M SUPERFAN > guirid@numerica.it > > >=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE60EB.F0948980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Dominique,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2>I don't doubt = that there are=20 "shills" on the web. But do you have knowledge that the post = regarding=20 the OM equipment was not someone's honest opinion? I use my Leica's = most, but=20 don't feel put out if I have to use my OM-1 or OM-4n. They are fine = cameras with=20 a great line of lenses. I prefer range finders. But unless you are = totally=20 "Leica mad," the value and quality of other brands must be=20 acknowledged. And I think very few viewers could sort out prints made = with a 50=20 mm Summicron ($900) and those made with a $40 Zuiko = f1.8. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Joe Stephenson </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><B>-----Original = Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=20 </B>Dominique PELLISSIER <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:pelliss@droit-eco.univ-nancy2.fr">pelliss@droit-eco.univ-n= ancy2.fr</A>><BR><B>To:=20 </B><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us">leica-users@mejac.palo-= alto.ca.us</A>=20 <<A=20 = href=3D"mailto:leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us">leica-users@mejac.palo-= alto.ca.us</A>><BR><B>Date:=20 </B>Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:40 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: = [Leica]=20 olympus vs leica<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>At 02:45 24/02/99 +0100, Guido = wrote=20 :<BR>>I'm also on the olympus list and I've recived this message = any=20 comments about this:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>:Last month I = bought an=20 OM 4T body along with 28mm/f2.8, 50mm/f1.4,50mm/f1.8, 50mm/f3.5 = [macro], and=20 100mm/f2.8 lenses. They were all second hand from an established = camera=20 dealer [which also happens to be an official outlet for Leica, = Nikon, and=20 Hasselblad] so I felt comfortable that I was dealing with a = legitimate and=20 reputable source of supply.I have been using a Leica M3 since 1965 = and am M5=20 since 1987 along with 35mm, 50mm, 90mm, and 135mm Leitz lenses so = know all=20 about sharp and brilliant prints and slides.I have shot reels of = Agfa Optima=20 100 ISO, Fuji Reala 100 ISO, and Kodak Portra VC 160 ISO through my = OM 4T at=20 a tropical plant conservatory in Vancouver using only available = light coming=20 through the domed glass roof. The outside weather ranged from bright = sunlight in almost clear blue skies to cloud and overcast skies. The = films=20 were all processed at the same place. I have the following=20 observations:<BR>1. The sharpness and brilliance of the photos at = all points=20 on the prints using all fives lenses at varying speeds and apertures = was not=20 one iota less than I would have expected from my Leitz lenses. There = is=20 absolutely<BR>no lack of the depth or 3D effect in these Olympus = photos and=20 based on this three film sample of experience I have to say that I = can not=20 imagine any more superior performance from anywhere else.<BR>5. I am = *absolutely* sold on my Olympus equipment [the results are every bit = as good=20 as those from the stuff made in Wetzlar or whereever!] as well as VC = 160=20 film for flowers and foliage in conditions like those I experienced = last=20 week.<BR>Let's hear it for Olympus.<BR>#############<BR><BR>I read = some=20 months ago in my newspaper <I>Le Monde</I>, the most serious and = respectable=20 newspaper in France, an article on individuals who are paid by = companies in=20 order to be "black" or "white knight" on the = web.It is a=20 new form of economic war using disinformation.<BR>By repeating and=20 commenting these messages, we are innocent accomplices of these=20 manipulations.<BR><BR>Dominique=20 Pellissier<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>thanks in advance<BR>> = Guido=20 Ridoli<BR>> LEICA M SUPERFAN<BR>>=20 guirid@numerica.it<BR>><BR>><BR>> = </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> - ------=_NextPart_000_00B2_01BE60EB.F0948980--