Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/06/02

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Stolen Goods List - Not Workable Because -----
From: Dennis Painter <>
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:04:16 -0700 wrote:
>  This type of "Stolen Goods List" site has been discussed on other forums
>  and many authorities agree that it could probably cause more harm than
>  good, by allowing those devious types to just obtain S/Ns & descriptions
>  of items for sale and then say that it was stolen from themselves.

Saying is one thing, filing a false police report is another. I belive
that filing a false police report is a felony.  Granted that doesn't
seem to stop some people these days.  Still I see it as very difficult
for someone to match up dates and circumstances on a false report,

For example, I advertise a camera which I bought last year, a canceled
check substantiating the transaction. You, knowing nothing of the
circumstances of my accquistion file a police report stating it was
stolen, say last week.  Upon investigation the police ask why you took
so long to file the report, as you details of how you originally
accquired the camera, etc, etc.  It is a thin line you tread when you do
this, not to mention illegal.  

Of course nobody wants the hassle so the don't list the last 3 digits. 
Seems like this solves whatever problem you perceive of making public
lists of stolen goods.

I really question that a public list of stolen cameras would 'do more
harm than good'  I think your logic is flawed here.


>  This was already brought up on the LUG in regards to listing the last three
>  digits of S/Ns instead of 3,666,XXX which is how most dealers will list items
>  for that very reason.   ------- Marvin
>  =========================================================
>  In a message dated 6/2/98 8:33:PM Pacific Time, writes:
> >
> >  There are stolen cameras posted at a variety of sites. I think the
> >  problem is there needs to be a central site.  Problems are, building up
> >  to critical mass and who pays for the site.  It would need to be
> >  searchable also.
> >
> >  > If it doesn't exist somewhere already, it would be a simple task
> >  > to setup a self-service posting method on a web site, where
> >  > users could post stolen information, and their contact data. Equally
> >  > easy is a search method among the posted data.  All this is a trivial
> >  > task with web software like FrontPage.
> >  >
> >  > Dennis, where did you see the original post, stating the stolen #'s?
> >  >
> >  > don ferrario
> >
> >  Don,
> >
> >  It was posted here on the LUG.  Look at the first part of the quoted
> >  message above to see more about who posted.
> >
> >  Dennis