Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1996/09/15

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To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: View/-rangefinder with 135 lenses
From: ms fokkema <michiel.fokkema@tip.nl>
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 96 11:04 MET DST

At 21:48 14-09-96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I am working on a documentary project and will need to spend a bit more time
>behind the 135mm framelines of my M4-P with 135/4 Tele-Elmar-M attached.
>For those of you who have had this wonderful experience, you will understand
>my lack of joy at the very thought of spending much time in this
>circumstance.  The portion of the total viewfinder image represented by the
>135 framelines is such a small fraction that it is VERY difficult to frame
>an image and focus the lens.
>
>I am considering purchasing an M3 because it appears that the 135 framelines
>is a larger portion of the entire viewfinder field and the magnification of
>the viewfinder is closer to 1:1 than the 72% lifesize image of the M4-P.
>Years ago I had an M3 and 135 Hecktor (a gorgeous piece of glass if you ask
>me) and can't remember having any difficulties either framing an image or
>focusing the lens with the combination.  For those who might suggest the
>135/2.8, I would add that I have done this, too.  I might as well carry my
>Hasselblad with the 250mm for the scant bit of weight I'd be saving!  I also
>suppose I could get an M4-2 (because they're cheaper) and have M3 framelines
>put in - but at what cost?
>
>Anyone (including Marc) have any thoughts/advice on the subject?
>
>Thanks friends,
>
>Curt
>
>Elizabeth Mei Wong
>Henry Curtis Miller
>Christopher P.E. Miller
>
>Pittsfield, Massachusetts
>In the Berkshires, next door to Tanglewood
>
>
>
Hello christopher,

I own a M3 as well as aM4-P. The M4-P is accurate enough to focus the the
135/4.0, but when you use the 135 a lot the M3 will work much more pleasant
just because you have a much larger frame. The M3 135 frame is also bigger
then the M4-2 frame. What's the use of converting a M4-2 to a M3 at higher cost?
Still I think a M3 with the 135/2.8 would work the best because it gives you
the largest frame for the 135, a bit more weight will also help you to hold
it more steady when shooting out of hand.

Best regards,

                michiel