[Leica] Unusual band on some negatives from M3

Lluis Ripoll lluisripollphotography at gmail.com
Tue Nov 21 08:09:55 PST 2023


Once verified that film was correctly fited in my opinion this is a quite usual on the old cameras curtain problem, I agree with Peter it rquires a good CLA
Lluis


> El 21 nov 2023, a les 17:04, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va escriure:
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> Aram,
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> Looking at it large the band is fairly well defined, but towards the edge of the image there is a slightly darker blurred area, as if it had been lightly brushed by something.
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> It could be processing, but assuming that it was done at a reasonable dev shop, my guess is that the shutter is encountering a bit of grit and possibly that the curtain may have been in slight contact with the film, suggesting a bit slack at higher speeds.
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> I also wonder whether the film might have not been properly mounted. If you look at the edge of the frame 34 - 34A - 35 sequence on the contacts there is a visible distortion of the film suggesting that the sockets weren't properly engaging. The border of the film shows marked scratching on many frames. Also, and this may be how it was scanned, the left hand of frame 10A doesn't look vertical to my eyes, and even that early in the film there is marked scratching.
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> I think it probably needs a good CLA.
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> Just my 2p worth,
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> Peter - who has just got his M3 back after a very long absence
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> On 17/11/2023 18:14, Aram Langhans via LUG wrote:
>> A friend has an M3 and sent me some photo that have a light (dark on negative) vertical band towards one edge.My first thought was light leak, but it does not appear on all negatives and also does not extend into the sprocket area of the film.It is also pretty even, not diffuse.I asked if he remembered if he was using a high shutter speed for those with the bands and he though he was at about 1/500 or 1/1000 for those.I am thinking shutter problem but what I do not know.At those speeds the shutter curtains form a narrow slit and maybe it is hesitating part way across causing this band?In my 50+ years of shooting, I have never heard or seen anything like that.I told him perhaps he should run another roll through the camera at different shutter speeds and see if he can see any correlation.I told him he might exercise the shutter a bit by running it through the speeds a bunch of times and see if that cures the problem. He is a new owner of this M3 and I suspect, knowing where it came from, it might have not been used for years before he got it. I have linked a few photos showing the band.Maybe someone here can shed some light on this problem?
>> band on photo 10-11-23scan010 (leica-users.org) <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/band+on+photo+10-11-23scan010.jpg.html>
>> Line on negative drew (leica-users.org) <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Aram/misc/Line+on+negative+drew.jpg.html>
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> Dr. Peter Dzwig
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