[Leica] [Leica} Had a camera scare today......

Sun Jun 5 18:44:09 PDT 2022

This has nothing to do with whether Sandisk does or does not work with
Leica digital bodies because I have no experience of that. I have never had
any problem with Sandisk SD cards in the past, whether UHS or UHS II, but
the only warning I wish to give about Sandisk is about their Compact Flash
Express (B) cards - they are slow and run very hot with burst shooting or
video, therefore are rubbish and highly avoidable. The best/fastest CFE (B)
cards come in new flavours - Delkin Black, Prograde Cobalt and Angelbird AV
Pro Mark II - the last mentioned even has firmware updates to the card to
improve performance. These cards are eye wateringly expensive so it is
important to buy the right cards at the outset when you need them. That is
the only function of this post, targeted at those who also shoot Nikon,
Fuji or Canon mirrorless offerings along with their Leica systems. Sony
uses the slower CFE (A) cards, but it is only a matter of time that they
migrate to CFE (B) cards as well.

Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 1:14 AM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:

> The only digital Leica I have ever had is the M8. But my point was that I
> have used the same cards in several other cameras.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> photo at frozenlight.eu
>
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
>
> > On 5 Jun 2022, at 21:21, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever used Sandisk in an M9 or CCD Monochrom?  They do not
> always work in them, I used Transcend and currently Lexar...
> >
> > john
> >
> > On 05/06/2022, 19:34, "LUG on behalf of Nathan Wajsman"
> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of
> photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
> >
> >    YMMV is the word here. I have used Sandisk, and only Sandisk, for
> many years. In Leica, Panasonic (various models), Fuji (various models),
> Ricoh GR—in all of them without any problems, ever.
> >
> >    Cheers,
> >    Nathan
> >
> >    Nathan Wajsman
> >    photo at frozenlight.eu
> >
> >    http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >    http://www.greatpix.eu
> >    http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >
> >    YNWA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 5 Jun 2022, at 18:25, Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Maybe, but my Sony cards would not work in my Monochrom.  ( and yes, my
> fastest cards are Sony, and they work equally well in my Nikon D7100 and
> Sony A7, A7rii, and M240.....!)
> >>
> >> It is not an issue of bulletproof.... the card is not the problem....
> The original EE designer is the problem.....
> >>
> >> In the early digital age,and especially the early Leica M8/M9 age, it
> appears that Leica (and others) teamed up with a vendor and then designed
> the camera to work with the electrical specs of THAT vendor. Other vendors
> cards had slightly different specs and therefore would not work.  All the
> cars met the Standard, but had slightly different specs..... so designing
> to the specific vendor card specs was a BIG mistake for us consumers.
> >>
> >> Ever wonder WHY there is a recommended memory card list for an older
> camera?  Re-read the above..... THAT is why.
> >>
> >> In the subsequent years, people complained, camera companies looked
> like idiots, card makers got tired of the nonsense, and new cameras were
> designed using the STANDARDS for SD cards.... Yes, the least common
> denominator specs.  All the cards worked.... which makes consumer sense...
> >>
> >> The difference is in the specific vendor electrical specs vs the least
> common denominator standards specs.... and which you design to.
> >>
> >> Nowadays, it is all but a memory.  In new cameras, all cards work.
> >>
> >> But, in using older cameras, you forget the old rules, and stick the
> wrong BRAND and MODEL of card in your OLD camera.....
> >>
> >> I bought some old Transcend cards from EBay yesterday..... want to be
> sure I can keep the Monochrom running......
> >>
> >> And I am going to put a sticker inside the bottom plate telling me to
> use my Transcend cards only..... because I know I will forget again.....
> >>
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> >> On 6/5/2022 5:59 AM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
> >>> I don't know how they do in Leica, but Sony Tough sd cards are
> bulletproof.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Sonny
> >>> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
> >>> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> >>> 1714
> >>> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> >>>
> >>> USA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Surprised they lasted this long, I only had my M9 a few months before
> I
> >>>> had to move to Transcend cards from Sandisk....
> >>>>
> >>>> john
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/06/2022, 21:28, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG"
> >>>> <lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org on behalf of
> >>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    My precious Monochrom ( M9 Based Digi-Leica) would not accept a
> memory
> >>>> card.  Just kept telling me that there was no SD card installed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    I tried a bunch of other cards.  No luck.  At this point I saw a
> BIG
> >>>> repair bill coming my way.....
> >>>>
> >>>>    Did a Google search of ... Leica M9 SD Card Problems.... All the
> >>>> articles were old ( well, what do you expect given the camera is old?)
> >>>>
> >>>>    Three solutions were offered at that time...... a) contacts on
> camera
> >>>> or card were "dirty".... Clean them b) Bad memory card or card reader
> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>    camera ( what I feared) and finally, c) In the beginning of the M9,
> >>>> there were some issues with certain cards not working.... Leica
> chimed in
> >>>> and said
> >>>>    they knew about the problem, towards a fix.
> >>>>
> >>>>    The cards were mostly Sandisk....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    Well, the cards I was trying were all Sandisk, Extreme Pro.... I
> had
> >>>> 64GB, 32GB, 128GB..... none had worked.
> >>>>
> >>>>    I did have a pair of Transcend 32GB cards..... tried one and it
> worked
> >>>> perfectly.
> >>>>
> >>>>    The message to leave everyone with.... if your camera acts up,,
> Google
> >>>> the problem... and follow the solutions offered.
> >>>>
> >>>>    I would have expected Leica to fix the incompatibility years ago,
> but
> >>>> nope.....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    What did we do before the Internet?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    B+W anyone?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>    Frank Filippone
> >>>>
> >
> >
> >
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