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Sun Jul 3 22:07:19 PDT 2022

I do simple also, JABD. I have looked into Synology etc. some years ago but it seemed way too complicated.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 1 Jul 2022, at 06:33, Frank F via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> My point exactly. Easy fast simple.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 3:34 PM Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>> I ventured into a Synology NAS with RAID 5 a few years ago, primarily for
>> backup, and the damn thing broke down twice. Once was during the warranty
>> period, when it was set right by the sole distributor in India based in
>> Mumbai, and again 4 years ago. Both Synology and their distributor in
>> Mumbai had decided by then that they need not reply to emails/phone calls
>> from anyone owning any of their products which were out of the warranty
>> period, so it still sits as an expensive paperweight in my house. These are
>> very rare here still, so third party repair houses do not seem to be able
>> to repair them either.
>> 
>> I have reverted to doing my backups on 5TB portable external hard drives
>> made by Seagate/WD. I keep three sets - one at my house, one at my son's
>> house and one in my bank locker. They get updated at weekly, monthly and
>> two month intervals respectively. If other members of the family want to
>> access the data, they just plug in the correct USB external drive out of
>> the set at home, and away they go. It works fine, it is simple and anyone
>> can do it.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:28 AM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do
>>> anything fancy.  Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing
>>> complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and
>>> understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new
>>> one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the
>>> new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having
>>> any.
>>> 
>>> Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from
>>> any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers.
>>> Inside the house.
>>> 
>>> I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS
>>> from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir
>>> Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be
>>> impossible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
>>>> I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle
>>>> NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this
>>>> stuff.
>>>> 
>>>> No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic
>>>> functionality...
>>>> 
>>>> As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two
>>>> drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced
>>>> technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you.
>>>> 
>>>> I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off  my NAS remotely.  (
>>>> called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but
>>>> sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to
>>>> Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of
>>>> which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS.  You also
>>>> need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied
>>>> to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to
>>>> do nor has given me any answers that work.  Even the Tech Support has
>>>> told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work.....
>>>> Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL
>>>> commands from outside the LAN.  The ISP only is geared to the average
>>>> homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS....
>>>> Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own.
>>>> 
>>>> If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I
>>>> have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least
>>>> follow directions.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the
>>>> average IT guy, not some homeowner......  Things come up and do not
>>>> work.  Why?  you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix".
>>>> Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!!
>>>> 
>>>> The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a
>>>> NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes.  ( or
>>>> have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.)
>>>> 
>>>> The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two
>>>> different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD.
>>>> 
>>>> USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special
>>>> recording formats, and are really cheap.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it.....
>>>> 
>>>> I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS.  The tech support is
>>>> usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help
>>>> you along.  I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL!  Get the +
>>>> ( Plus) models.
>>>> 
>>>> They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD
>>>> capability.
>>>> 
>>>> YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy....
>>>> 
>>>> AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a
>>>> USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a
>>>> NAS........
>>>> 
>>>> AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out
>>>> there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know......
>>>> 
>>>> Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER
>>>> brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
>>>> On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Brian,
>>>>>> I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity
>>>>>> for the average user?
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a
>>>>> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it
>>>>> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to
>>>>> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has
>>>>> served him flawlessly.
>>>>> 
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