[Leica] Drobos

Fri Jul 1 01:57:42 PDT 2022

Drobo went belly-up? Damn. I have a 5N with 16TB for backup. I love it but
maybe not so much now....

I use Restrospect, so independent of Drobo, per se

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 12:56 AM Frank F via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:

> Brian is doing exactly what I suggested a good use of NAS for a non IT
> person: simple backup. No remote stuff. No synch.
> It works quite well in this mode. You can share your files among your
> computers easily. If you fall into this category, buy a NAS.  You should be
> very satisfied
> If you want more, ask yourself if tech talk and implementation drives you
> nuts.
>
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 12:58 PM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us>
> wrote:
>
> > I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do
> > anything fancy.  Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing
> > complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and
> > understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new
> > one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the
> > new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having
> > any.
> >
> > Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from
> > any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers.
> > Inside the house.
> >
> > I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS
> > from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir
> > Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be
> > impossible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> > > I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle
> > > NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic
> > > functionality...
> > >
> > > As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two
> > > drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced
> > > technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you.
> > >
> > > I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off  my NAS remotely.  (
> > > called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but
> > > sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to
> > > Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of
> > > which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS.  You also
> > > need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied
> > > to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to
> > > do nor has given me any answers that work.  Even the Tech Support has
> > > told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work.....
> > > Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL
> > > commands from outside the LAN.  The ISP only is geared to the average
> > > homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS....
> > > Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own.
> > >
> > > If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I
> > > have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least
> > > follow directions.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the
> > > average IT guy, not some homeowner......  Things come up and do not
> > > work.  Why?  you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix".
> > > Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!!
> > >
> > > The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a
> > > NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes.  ( or
> > > have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.)
> > >
> > > The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two
> > > different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD.
> > >
> > > USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special
> > > recording formats, and are really cheap.
> > >
> > > If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it.....
> > >
> > > I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS.  The tech support is
> > > usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help
> > > you along.  I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL!  Get the +
> > > ( Plus) models.
> > >
> > > They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD
> > > capability.
> > >
> > > YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy....
> > >
> > > AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a
> > > USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a
> > > NAS........
> > >
> > > AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out
> > > there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know......
> > >
> > > Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER
> > > brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle.
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank Filippone
> > > BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> > > On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
> > >> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote:
> > >>> Hello Brian,
> > >>>  I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity
> > >>> for the average user?
> > >>
> > >> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a
> > >> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it
> > >> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to
> > >> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has
> > >> served him flawlessly.
> > >>
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