[Leica] Welcome, M11

[Don Dory]

My experience with the electronic shutter is one of no appreciable
difference in dynamic range.   A nephew was married in the most appallingly
dim setting with theater spot lights: the A1 kept detail in shadow and
almost all the highlights even at ISO 16000.  As well,  Texas has some very
bright sunlight which in the past was difficult to photograph in.  The Sony
handles the dynamic range very well indeed..

On Sun, Jan 9, 2022, 9:50 PM Adam Bridge via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I recall reading that the Sony cameras had a reduced dynamic range when
> shot in electronic shutter mode. It’s not clear if that’s some sensor thing
> or even if if it’s accurate.
>
> I can’t see a difference between mechanical and electronic shutter with my
> SL2-S but I’m not doing serious experiments either.
>
> There is a price in terms of the size of the sensor stack for IBIS.
>
> Over on the Leica Australia Youtube channel there are a series of really
> interesting interviews with the Leica lens designer of the Sl series lenses
> comparing them to the M lenses.
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s>>
>
> That’s the 2nd one.
>
> Adam
>
> > On 2022 Jan  8, at 12:22 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Philippe, I primarily use a Sony A1 in the silent shutter mode.  I am
> well
> > familiar with the usefulness of IBIS and a silent shutter.  I find I can
> > almost equal the Sony with my M9 using Summilux lenses in terms of
> > sharpness.  Shutter noise is higher but in normal environments no one
> hears
> > it but me.  I used the M10R monochrome in the Seattle area this fall and
> > the shutter release is especially wonderful: if the M11 is as good then I
> > am much poorer as I will be hunting down the APO lenses to go with my new
> > M.  For some reason my best people/street images are taken with M's.  Go
> > figure.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry Don, try an electronic shutter and feel the difference ; no sound,
> >> no vibration … we’re here, all,  in the past :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Amities
> >>
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Le 8 janv. 2022 à 21:03, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a
> écrit
> >> :
> >>>
> >>> I will just add that most of the current M lineup will not deliver the
> >> full
> >>> capabilities of the new sensor.  On a conference call with the chief
> lens
> >>> designer he admitted that the current ASPH Summilux line was optimized
> >> for
> >>> 40mp.  So the APO Summicrons will be very desirable moving forward with
> >> the
> >>> new cameras coming.  As to IBIS, if Leica gets the high ISO performance
> >> up
> >>> to par then with the lenses you use on an M you will not especially
> need
> >>> it.  The M platform usually lets you shoot much slower shutter speeds
> >> than
> >>> other cameras.  I always thought it was the viewfinder let you hold the
> >>> camera steadier as your eye could hold a point in the viewfinder
> steady.
> >>> We will see.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:54 PM Frank Filippone via LUG <
> >> lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In 5 days, on January 13, the M11 will be formally introduced.
> >>>>
> >>>> In its most basic analysis, an M10 with a 60MP Sensor.
> >>>>
> >>>> It has a 60MP sensor. The external Visoflex it uses to allow for EVF
> >> type
> >>>> viewing will be new. No IBIS.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trap door on the bottom to access SD Card and Battery. ( No more
> >> removable
> >>>> bottom!)
> >>>>
> >>>> Expected price is LESS than the M10 currently in the lineup.
> >>>> ( Probably the same sensor as the Sony A7riv, which sells for
> >> $3000-3500,
> >>>> with IBIS)
> >>>>
> >>>> I am//awaiting the M12, presumably WITH IBIS.
> >>>>
> >>>> Once you use IBIS, you won't go back.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filipp
> >>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Don
> >>> don.dory at gmail.com
> >>>
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> >
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