[Leica] Welcome, M11

[Adam Bridge]

I recall reading that the Sony cameras had a reduced dynamic range when shot in electronic shutter mode. It’s not clear if that’s some sensor thing or even if if it’s accurate. 

I can’t see a difference between mechanical and electronic shutter with my SL2-S but I’m not doing serious experiments either.

There is a price in terms of the size of the sensor stack for IBIS.

Over on the Leica Australia Youtube channel there are a series of really interesting interviews with the Leica lens designer of the Sl series lenses comparing them to the M lenses.

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyoAIOTIcs&t=560s>>

That’s the 2nd one.

Adam

> On 2022 Jan  8, at 12:22 PM, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
> Philippe, I primarily use a Sony A1 in the silent shutter mode.  I am well
> familiar with the usefulness of IBIS and a silent shutter.  I find I can
> almost equal the Sony with my M9 using Summilux lenses in terms of
> sharpness.  Shutter noise is higher but in normal environments no one hears
> it but me.  I used the M10R monochrome in the Seattle area this fall and
> the shutter release is especially wonderful: if the M11 is as good then I
> am much poorer as I will be hunting down the APO lenses to go with my new
> M.  For some reason my best people/street images are taken with M's.  Go
> figure.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 2:17 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Don, try an electronic shutter and feel the difference ; no sound,
>> no vibration … we’re here, all,  in the past :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 8 janv. 2022 à 21:03, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit
>> :
>>> 
>>> I will just add that most of the current M lineup will not deliver the
>> full
>>> capabilities of the new sensor.  On a conference call with the chief lens
>>> designer he admitted that the current ASPH Summilux line was optimized
>> for
>>> 40mp.  So the APO Summicrons will be very desirable moving forward with
>> the
>>> new cameras coming.  As to IBIS, if Leica gets the high ISO performance
>> up
>>> to par then with the lenses you use on an M you will not especially need
>>> it.  The M platform usually lets you shoot much slower shutter speeds
>> than
>>> other cameras.  I always thought it was the viewfinder let you hold the
>>> camera steadier as your eye could hold a point in the viewfinder steady.
>>> We will see.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 12:54 PM Frank Filippone via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In 5 days, on January 13, the M11 will be formally introduced.
>>>> 
>>>> In its most basic analysis, an M10 with a 60MP Sensor.
>>>> 
>>>> It has a 60MP sensor. The external Visoflex it uses to allow for EVF
>> type
>>>> viewing will be new. No IBIS.
>>>> 
>>>> Trap door on the bottom to access SD Card and Battery. ( No more
>> removable
>>>> bottom!)
>>>> 
>>>> Expected price is LESS than the M10 currently in the lineup.
>>>> ( Probably the same sensor as the Sony A7riv, which sells for
>> $3000-3500,
>>>> with IBIS)
>>>> 
>>>> I am//awaiting the M12, presumably WITH IBIS.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you use IBIS, you won't go back.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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