[Leica] Closed Parc - Don

Wed May 13 07:42:33 PDT 2020

Thanks, Philippe.  I suspected as much, but hadn't heard you mention 
getting into drones.

On 5/13/20 9:05 AM, Philippe via LUG wrote:
> A flying Hasselbladt Jim.
>
>   A neighbour and friend (the bald guy on the photo) came over for an aperitif and took his drone along ;-)
>
> The video is even more impressive but way too heavy to upload and share on the sites I know.
>
> Thanks
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
>> Le 13 mai 2020 à 15:39, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> a écrit :
>>
>> Philippe,
>>
>> That is one very impressive image.  How did you manage to accomplish that?
>>
>> On 5/13/20 6:38 AM, Philippe via LUG wrote:
>>> Parks, and Parks :-)
>>>
>>> Barcelons is known to have wild-boars around.
>>> https://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/bombers/en/noticia/watch-out-for-wild-boars_360417
>>>
>>> Closing the gates prevents them from investing the nearly deserted places and spreading hepatitis through the community on top of COVID19, mostly to the kids playing in these parks.
>>>
>>> That might another of the reasons why. But who am I to guess …
>>>
>>> Amities
>>>
>>> Philippe, semi-confined and surrounded by wild-boars, cf infra  :-)
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Metz/DJI_0220.jpg.html?g2_fromNavId=xe8847acf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 12 mai 2020 à 22:54, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> HI, Phillipe.  My comments about US parks was more to reinforce the
>>>> stupidity of some government officials.  My daughter had reservations for a
>>>> camping spot in a Washington State park.  Reservations mean you don't get
>>>> in the park without one.  Limited number of folks in the huge park.  Yet
>>>> her reservation was cancelled, the park rangers couldn't cruise around the
>>>> park ensuring that the rules were followed?  What the F&%k are the state
>>>> employees doing with nobody allowed in the park.  Moving the conversation
>>>> to Spain, once the stay in your home orders had been modified so different
>>>> age groups could go outside at different times with restrictions the
>>>> gendarmes could not keep a watch on the park to ensure that the rules were
>>>> followed?  If we are going to have limited stay at home restrictions then
>>>> ensuring the sanity of the public is of great importance to all involved.
>>>> Letting people within reason enjoy a park helps to keep the populations
>>>> sanity: if the population can't follow the rules then you close the park or
>>>> whatever public space is in question with the explanation that some could
>>>> not keep the rest of the citizens safe.
>>>>
>>>> The various countries of course are free to set whatever policies that make
>>>> sense for them.  Scenario 1 is that we have various forms of lockdowns
>>>> until 50% or more of the population is vaccinated whenever a vaccine is
>>>> created.  Managing the sanity of the citizens will be a careful balancing
>>>> of limited freedoms carefully managed so that exposure to the virus is as
>>>> low as possible.  In this scenario government finances are stretched to the
>>>> limit as there is no income coming in.  Some organizations close forever as
>>>> resources evaporate(workforce that choose not to be locked up, commitments
>>>> for inputs that go to who can actually purchase the inputs and lock up said
>>>> resources).
>>>>
>>>> Scenario 2 is to start to open up your society as much as possible watching
>>>> hospital resources carefully: the goal is to get as many people with
>>>> antibodies as possible without overloading the medical resources
>>>> available.  Here you will shut things down progressively if your medical
>>>> resources begin to overload.  In this scenario deaths may increase
>>>> dramatically if wrong calls are made.
>>>>
>>>> Scenario 3 is the German model that allowed companies to remain open with
>>>> strict monitoring of worker conditions to limit the spread of the virus.
>>>> Social distancing is strongly enforced.  This is a middle path with
>>>> possibly a middle mortality rate but incomes to the government are less
>>>> affected.
>>>>
>>>> Scenario 4 is large testing with police enforcement of quarantine as people
>>>> are found to be infected.  This only works in small population countries
>>>> with a strong social bond that trusts/obey authority.  It also only works
>>>> when the infection is just starting and the infected are a relatively small
>>>> number.  This would never work in Paris or NYC currently as too many are
>>>> infected to trace the infections.
>>>>
>>>> Scenario 5 is the Swedish model.  Essentially a variation on the German
>>>> model with more choice by the citizens.  Currently a higher mortality rate
>>>> than the nearest neighbors but maybe smarter if a vaccine is not developed
>>>> in 6-18 months.
>>>>
>>>> In the US we are essentially trying 1 and 2 simultaneously.  States like
>>>> Georgia, Florida, Texas, Colorado, S. Dakota are working on #2.  NY,
>>>> Washington State, Michigan, Pennsylvania appear to be trying #1.  The next
>>>> few weeks will be enlightening.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:43 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A tragedy yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, the rest of your reasonings is open to questions. Different places,
>>>>> cultures, etc. Lluis's downtown parc is not a National Park in the US, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Same virus though. Lethal for humans.
>>>>>
>>>>> And all the more so if you drink bleach instead of cerveça ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Amities
>>>>>
>>>>> Philippe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 12 mai 2020 à 21:33, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a tragedy.  Sunlight and fresh air kill the virus.  People just
>>>>>> need to keep their distance and/or wear a mask.  Several of our states
>>>>> have
>>>>>> closed their state parks for fear that people won't follow the rules.  If
>>>>>> someone won't follow the rules in 10,000 hectares of forest they won't
>>>>>> follow them walking down the street.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Parc in confinement….
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Abstracts/20200512_L1020708.jpg.html
>>>>>>> Leica Monochrom (CCCD), Noctilux F1.0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
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