[Leica] Closed Parc - Don

Wed May 13 07:05:26 PDT 2020

A flying Hasselbladt Jim.

 A neighbour and friend (the bald guy on the photo) came over for an aperitif and took his drone along ;-)

The video is even more impressive but way too heavy to upload and share on the sites I know.

Thanks

Amities

Philippe

> Le 13 mai 2020 à 15:39, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> a écrit :
> 
> Philippe,
> 
> That is one very impressive image.  How did you manage to accomplish that?
> 
> On 5/13/20 6:38 AM, Philippe via LUG wrote:
>> Parks, and Parks :-)
>> 
>> Barcelons is known to have wild-boars around.
>> https://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/bombers/en/noticia/watch-out-for-wild-boars_360417
>> 
>> Closing the gates prevents them from investing the nearly deserted places and spreading hepatitis through the community on top of COVID19, mostly to the kids playing in these parks.
>> 
>> That might another of the reasons why. But who am I to guess …
>> 
>> Amities
>> 
>> Philippe, semi-confined and surrounded by wild-boars, cf infra  :-)
>> 
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/Metz/DJI_0220.jpg.html?g2_fromNavId=xe8847acf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Le 12 mai 2020 à 22:54, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> HI, Phillipe.  My comments about US parks was more to reinforce the
>>> stupidity of some government officials.  My daughter had reservations for a
>>> camping spot in a Washington State park.  Reservations mean you don't get
>>> in the park without one.  Limited number of folks in the huge park.  Yet
>>> her reservation was cancelled, the park rangers couldn't cruise around the
>>> park ensuring that the rules were followed?  What the F&%k are the state
>>> employees doing with nobody allowed in the park.  Moving the conversation
>>> to Spain, once the stay in your home orders had been modified so different
>>> age groups could go outside at different times with restrictions the
>>> gendarmes could not keep a watch on the park to ensure that the rules were
>>> followed?  If we are going to have limited stay at home restrictions then
>>> ensuring the sanity of the public is of great importance to all involved.
>>> Letting people within reason enjoy a park helps to keep the populations
>>> sanity: if the population can't follow the rules then you close the park or
>>> whatever public space is in question with the explanation that some could
>>> not keep the rest of the citizens safe.
>>> 
>>> The various countries of course are free to set whatever policies that make
>>> sense for them.  Scenario 1 is that we have various forms of lockdowns
>>> until 50% or more of the population is vaccinated whenever a vaccine is
>>> created.  Managing the sanity of the citizens will be a careful balancing
>>> of limited freedoms carefully managed so that exposure to the virus is as
>>> low as possible.  In this scenario government finances are stretched to the
>>> limit as there is no income coming in.  Some organizations close forever as
>>> resources evaporate(workforce that choose not to be locked up, commitments
>>> for inputs that go to who can actually purchase the inputs and lock up said
>>> resources).
>>> 
>>> Scenario 2 is to start to open up your society as much as possible watching
>>> hospital resources carefully: the goal is to get as many people with
>>> antibodies as possible without overloading the medical resources
>>> available.  Here you will shut things down progressively if your medical
>>> resources begin to overload.  In this scenario deaths may increase
>>> dramatically if wrong calls are made.
>>> 
>>> Scenario 3 is the German model that allowed companies to remain open with
>>> strict monitoring of worker conditions to limit the spread of the virus.
>>> Social distancing is strongly enforced.  This is a middle path with
>>> possibly a middle mortality rate but incomes to the government are less
>>> affected.
>>> 
>>> Scenario 4 is large testing with police enforcement of quarantine as people
>>> are found to be infected.  This only works in small population countries
>>> with a strong social bond that trusts/obey authority.  It also only works
>>> when the infection is just starting and the infected are a relatively small
>>> number.  This would never work in Paris or NYC currently as too many are
>>> infected to trace the infections.
>>> 
>>> Scenario 5 is the Swedish model.  Essentially a variation on the German
>>> model with more choice by the citizens.  Currently a higher mortality rate
>>> than the nearest neighbors but maybe smarter if a vaccine is not developed
>>> in 6-18 months.
>>> 
>>> In the US we are essentially trying 1 and 2 simultaneously.  States like
>>> Georgia, Florida, Texas, Colorado, S. Dakota are working on #2.  NY,
>>> Washington State, Michigan, Pennsylvania appear to be trying #1.  The next
>>> few weeks will be enlightening.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 2:43 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A tragedy yes.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, the rest of your reasonings is open to questions. Different places,
>>>> cultures, etc. Lluis's downtown parc is not a National Park in the US, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Same virus though. Lethal for humans.
>>>> 
>>>> And all the more so if you drink bleach instead of cerveça ...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Amities
>>>> 
>>>> Philippe
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Le 12 mai 2020 à 21:33, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is a tragedy.  Sunlight and fresh air kill the virus.  People just
>>>>> need to keep their distance and/or wear a mask.  Several of our states
>>>> have
>>>>> closed their state parks for fear that people won't follow the rules.  If
>>>>> someone won't follow the rules in 10,000 hectares of forest they won't
>>>>> follow them walking down the street.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> A Parc in confinement….
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> 
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Abstracts/20200512_L1020708.jpg.html
>>>>>> Leica Monochrom (CCCD), Noctilux F1.0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for looking, your c&c are welcome
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>>> 
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