[Leica] Nikon et al vs MIrrorless cameras

[Sonny Carter]

If they are using Sony, they're using mirrorless pretty much.   I don't see
any of the older ones in my very touristy town when we have crowds.


Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 6:44 PM Aram Langhans via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Everybody keeps saying that mirrorless is booming, but in my outings in
> the
> National Parks and Forest, I do not see them.  I see tons of the crop
> sensor
> Nikons, a few less Canons (that surprises me), and every so often a Sony
> or
> even less often an Olympus.  I see more film cameras with each outing.
> So,
> while sales figures may say one thing, people who are more landscape
> photographers are not walking around with many mirrorless cameras......
> YET!!
>
> Aram
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 10:11 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon et al vs MIrrorless cameras
>
> This implies sales on the Z6, Z7 and Z50 camera have been slow in sales
> and
> I'm pretty sure that has not been the case at all I think it's been a boom
> for Nikon on all levels. I was in the market for a Nikon body  last
> January
> and the new and first out Nikon mirrorless Z6, Z7 were just out and were
> getting a ton of exposure. An innovated forward looking light hearted
> person
> would have gone that route. Not me like you were saying Nikon is a day one
> with mirrorless and the last thing I'm going to do is invest some big
> change
> into a first out. Turns out I was wrong these cameras worked out perfectly
> and paved the way for the recent release the DX cropped format Z50 which
> would really save my on Tylenol and Aleve bills. (this is not a product
> endorsement)
> I still say avoid first outs. And the D50 is not a first out. And its
> cheap
> and lightweight and compact as all get out. And that tiny feather weight
> zoom lens it often comes with is a near pancake could do me fine for years.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> On 2/14/20, 12:45 PM, "LUG on behalf of Frank Filippone via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>       Peter and Howard have been having a debate on Nikon ( specifically)
> Z6
>     camera progress to replacing all DSLR with Mirrorless models.
>
>     A different perspective....
>     First the interchange.....
>     The loan program shows how desperate Nikon is to convince Nikon users
> to
>     move from DSLRs to the EVF models. The latter are competent, as you
> can
> see,
>     but I am not sure that they will be as versatile as the old mirror
> prisms
>     on the DSLRs - especially for the flying bird photography that I do
>
>     Now the perspective....
>     The first Nikon camera to be digital was the D1 in 1999.  20 years ago.
>     They have done a wonderful job of improving and refining the camera(s)
>     since then.  The first Nikon mirrorless is the Z6/7 introduced in
> 2018.
> It
>     is to be understood that the Mirrorless camera has not had the
> development
>     time and effort that the DSLR models have.  Plus the business decision
> to
>     not develop too quickly and have all your DSLR sales go to zero
> because
> of
>     the "better" mirrorless model. ( incentive to NOT change or improve).
>     A few years ago I predicted the end of the DSLR domination.  That is
>     becoming a fact.  Manufacturing infrastructure at Nikon is
> predominantly
>     mechanically inclined employees.  Mirrorless camera require
> significantly
>     less mechanical assembly... they are basically computers with some
>     mechanical integration.  THEY ARE INHERENTLY LESS COSTLY TO PRODUCE.
>     The Sony A7 caught Nikon lollygagging around.. and Nikon declared the
> Sony
>     technology to be inferior...... never going to work as well.... Never
> going
>     to be able to AF as well.  Never going .... you fill in the final
>     part.....   Then came the Sony A9, which made Nikon shut up.  The A9
> was
>     created to defy Nikon.  Fix all the naysayers comments, especially the
>     Birders and teh Sports guys.....  Then came the A9II which further
>     strengthened the Mirrorless position.....
>     Nikon is  in no different position than they were a few years ago..
> denying
>     the obvious superiority of the mirrorless technology because of their
> heavy
>     infrastructure investments on mirror-box manufacturing.
>     Canon has stated no new DSLR lens development.  Guess the word is
> received
>     at Canon..... go Mirrorless.
>     If you want a bird imaging camera, with the Nikon brand on front, it is
>     coming.  As good as the D5 or D500.  Better.  Just wait a couple more
>     years....... maybe sooner.....
>     Because you ain't going to see new, high end DSLR development in the
>     future.  Brand N or C..  Or other.
>
>
>
>     Frank Filippone
>     BMWRed735i at gmail.com
>
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