[Leica] It's all your fault

Tue May 15 05:53:45 PDT 2018

If you're talking to me, I certainly accept that not everyone is into heavy
manipulation; I don't consider what I do manipulation, as its pretty much
the same things (only better) that I did in the darkroom.

My point is that all of the Develop tools in LR are now in PS, so (for me)
I'm using one piece of software.  I don't have any plugins outside of Focus
Magic, but I usually use the PS sharpening tool for that.

My dissatisfaction with Lightroom lies mainly with the inadequate spotting
tool, as I'm often cleaning up scans of 50,70 or even 90-year-old negative
scans.

I don't use the LR cataloging feature, so PS works better for me.

I've been using Photoshop at work and home since about 1995, the first
Windows version. (I learned it on MAC) It was pretty slow back then, but it
did some miracles.  Still does.

SonC

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 12:39 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
wrote:

> Lightroom has everything I need to edit and manage my photos. You do not
> seem to accept that not everyone is into heavy duty manipulation. I did use
> Photoshop before LR came along and liberated me from the hazzle of having
> to use several pieces of software to do what one brilliant program does now.
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> > On 15 May 2018, at 02:59, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
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> > I can almost understand a new person doing their "post processing" or
> "editing" in Lightroom as that’s what all their pals are doing.
> > A person who's being doing this for more than five minutes has cut their
> teeth with Photoshop. The idea of somehow needing to unlearn or forgot
> photoshop so one can switch to Lightroom I'm not wrapping my head around. I
> suspect that the many people who say they did this were not being
> practically upfront with the fact that they not gotten into Photoshop that
> far in the first place.
> > Otherwise how could they have given it up? It does not add up.  Is it
> some kind of burden?
> > "no I must stop using this fabulour software I've been using for two
> decades and quickly learn instead this fast and easy software everyone else
> is using"
> > Photoshop is a fabulous world unto its self which is a reason to own a
> computer in the first place.
> > Photoshop is as fast and easy as it needs to be if you have been using
> it the whole time.
> > I spent less than a minutes on most my images after first spending a
> minute in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) which is how it opens from Adobe Bridge
> which is the contact sheet thing.. DB
> > PS has plenty of sliders. Plenty of "auto" features.
> > It just gives you 4 ways to do something instead of one or zero.
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> > Mark William Rabiner
> > Photographer
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> > On 5/13/18, 4:20 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
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> >    LR is a great cataloging software that includes some editing tools.
> PS is
> >    a great editing software that does not include cataloging.
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> >    I go to PS for Focus Magic, cloning, spotting, layer work, and
> deleting
> >    objects,
> >
> >    Most of my 3rd party editing softwares are accessible through LR,
> except
> >    Focus Magic.
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> >    If I need to find anything by keyword, camera, lens, date, rating,
> >    filename, that's possible in LR.
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> >    I can't imagine working without either one of them.
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> >    Tina
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> >    On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:48 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >    wrote:
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> >> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 1:43 PM Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Right on. I do not even have Photoshop anymore. LR is more than enough.
> >> If
> >>> I have to spend 1/2 hour manipulating an image in a piece of software
> to
> >>> make it look decent, then I have screwed up at the time of taking the
> >>> picture.
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> >> My mileage varies!
> >>
> >> I use PS because LR doesn’t have an adequate way to spot images, and
> >> flowers almost always have stray pollen, dirt or minute tears that could
> >> use attention.  I spend very little time “fixing” images, but every
> shot I
> >> post gets at least a once over.  I also prefer the solutions available
> in
> >> PS for straightening falling buildings.   The nice LR tools are all
> present
> >> in PS in camera raw filter.
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