[Leica] Nikon mirrorless

[Aram]

For me it comes down to the viewfinder.  How close does it come to an 
optical viewfinder?  Sony, up to the Mark II's that I have tried is not good 
enough. Not been able to see a Mark III.  Vaporware at any store I have been 
in.  Fuji is better.  Leica SL electronic view finder would be the goal 
Nikon should shoot for.  If they can match that, then I am interested, 
providing the image quality is up to at least my D750.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: Doug Herr
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:31 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon mirrorless

As far as I'm concerned the weight savings is a secondary benefit of 
mirrorless.  The primary benefits for me are reduced vibration, IBIS, 
WYSIWYG exposure, viewfinder magnification, the ability to use a huge 
variety of legacy lenses and zero discrepancy between the viewing/focussing 
plane and the image making plane i.e. no AF microadjustment, ever.

Doug Herr
Birdman of Sacramento
http://www.wildlightphoto.com
http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com


-----Original Message-----
>From: Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>Sent: Jul 5, 2018 10:38 AM
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>Cc: Don Dory <don.dory at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon mirrorless
>
>After contemplating Doug's response I do have a bit to add.  I am not sure
>that even a superlative F mount to whatever the new mount is will be
>enough.  Professional lenses are rather large and heavy; the new body will
>not help you save much weight so many will not change bodies and not buy
>the new lenses.  Another consideration is that Nikon has a track record of
>being unable to produce their good stuff in any quantity for a world
>market.
>
>My prediction is that even with strong support from the top tier of Nikon
>shooters for the new camera, when a mid level photographer wants to order
>one for the new technology and is informed that they are on a long waiting
>list but also informed that they can buy brand S or F today with an adapter
>to use the newest F lenses somewhat seamlessly guess what will happen.
>
>Now, if the current production issues from Nikon spending resources to
>build up capability to flood the market with the new camera system then if
>execution is great on technology then life awaits Nikon.
>
>On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:27 PM Doug Herr via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>wrote:
>
>> IMHO because of the number of e-mount lenses now on the market, a good
>> adapter for the huge variety of F-mount lenses will be the key to the
>> success of this camera otherwise it will be too little, too late.
>>
>> As far as I'm concerned the dominance of the SLR is over.  There will be
>> some SLR cameras that continue to sell in selected niche markets but like
>> the rangefinder (sorry!) its glory days will soon be over.
>>
>> Doug Herr
>> Birdman of Sacramento
>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com>
>> >Sent: Jul 5, 2018 9:30 AM
>> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Nikon mirrorless
>> >
>> >Not so sure about that. If all the existing AF-F mount lenses can be 
>> >used
>> >via adapter, this can truly signal the end of SLRs.
>> >
>> >Sony was the first to the market, with a full 35mm sensor, but having to
>> >invest in a new set of lenses prevented many from making the jump. If
>> Nikon
>> >can pave a path for smoother transition, with full compatibility with
>> >legacy accessories, as it has historically done, I can see many people
>> >embracing the new standard.
>> >
>> >Nikon's previous mirrorless standard was indeed a failure, trying to 
>> >avoid
>> >cannibalising the existing SLR market. But they have now seen that the 
>> >SLR
>> >era is over.
>> >
>> >
>> >On 5 July 2018 at 09:20, chris williams via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Too little too late IMHO.
>> >>
>> >> Chris Williams
>> >> www.zoeicaimages.net
>> >> 504-231-6261
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Jul 5, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Akhil Lal <alal at nyu.edu> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > According to nikonrumors.com, Nikon will announcetwo mirrorless
>> bodies
>> >> > soon. The lens mount will be new.
>> >> >
>> >> > I just hope Nikon offers an auto- everything adapter to use current 
>> >> > F
>> >> mount
>> >> > lenses on the new bodies.
>> >> >
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