[Leica] Paper profile question

[Jayanand Govindaraj]

$500 to $700 in 16 years means it has actually got cheaper in real,
inflation adjusted terms!

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:42 AM Christopher Crawford <
chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:

> I used Imageprint with my first good inkjet printer, the Epson 2200, 16
> years ago. It was great, and back then was the only way to get good BW
> prints, but the pricing was really extreme, and its gotten FAR worse. The
> version for 13x19 printers was $500 back then, and now its $700. I am using
> an Epson P800 now and they want $900 for the software for it. No thanks; I
> just plain cannot afford that.
>
>
> --
> Chris Crawford
> Fine Art Photography
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> 260-437-8990
>
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>
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>
> On 8/22/18, 12:24 AM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     I have been using ImagePrint ever since 2003/4 when I started printing
> in
>     earnest, in the days of getting random green and magenta tints on B&W
>     prints on an Epson 1290. There was no choice but use a RIP in those
> days
>     for neutral B&W output, and IP's profiles were, and still are, much
> better
>     than the manufacturers canned ones. Having paid out the initial
> joining fee
>     eons ago, I have been upgrading as and when I have been upgrading
> printers,
>     as I am used to their interface and it is a part of my printing
> workflow.
>     If I were in the same position today that I was way back then, I would
> not
>     bother with a RIP, as Chris pointed out, and stick to the Epson ABW
> driver,
>     as it has improved by leaps and bounds over the years.
>
>     Cheers
>     Jayanand
>
>     On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM Paul Roark via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
>     wrote:
>
>     > I print all my B&W with QuadToneRip.
>     >
>     > Many use the OEM inkset, but I prefer a dedicated B&W approach.
>     >
>     > FWIW,
>     >
>     > Paul
>     > www.PaulRoark.com
>     >
>     > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Christopher Crawford <
>     > chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Ken,
>     > >
>     > > Inexpensive profiling kits like that one don't really produce very
> good
>     > > profiles, and even the high end profiling devices don't do well
> for BW
>     > > printing. To be honest, the Epson Advanced BW Mode produces FAR
> more
>     > > accurate B&W prints than you'll get from using any color profile,
> and it
>     > is
>     > > built-in and free.
>     > >
>     > > I made a tutorial on how to use it:
>     > >
>     > > https://youtu.be/kxkpJEzn8YM
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > --
>     > > Chris Crawford
>     > > Fine Art Photography
>     > > Fort Wayne, Indiana
>     > > 260-437-8990
>     > >
>     > > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>     > >
>     > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>     > > Like My Work on Facebook
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > On 8/21/18, 8:07 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ken Carney"
> <lug-bounces+chris=
>     > > chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> kcarney1 at cox.net>
>     > > wrote:
>     > >
>     > >     Tapping the wisdom of the LUG:  I would like to start making
> my own
>     > >     paper profiles for b&w on Epson printers.  B&H has the X-Rite
> kit on
>     > >     sale for $389.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     >
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1369004-REG/x_rite_eostudio_i1studio.html
>     > >
>     > >     Will this be a good solution?  Now I am using the Spyder 3 Pro
> for
>     > >     monitors, and the factory profiles for papers (Hahnemuelle,
> Epson
>     > > etc.)
>     > >     This is with soft-proofing the paper profiles then adjusting if
>     > >     necessary.  Most of the time the prints are good...but I would
> like
>     > > them
>     > >     to be better.  Previously I have used ImagePrint with good
> results,
>     > > but
>     > >     dang it is expensive to keep upgrading for a hobbyist.
>     > >
>     > >     Ken
>     > >
>     > >
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