[Leica] URL: USA freelance rates

[Bill Pearce]

Tina,
you remind me of a man I knew for most of my life who was often referred to 
as the last renaissance man of our city, who said to me back in the sixties, 
"We are entering an anti intellectual time." He pinned it to the rise in 
professional sports. He may have been the canary in the coal mine.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tina Manley
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 2:27 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: USA freelance rates

Will be??  Already are there.

:-(

Tina

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> Tin,
>
> I said years ago that the ubiquity of cell phone with cameras cameras
> would lead to the painful death of photography. It seems to me that our
> society has been on an ever downward trip to below mediocrity. Photos that
> are good enough on a tiny screen on a phone are "good enough" for the
> average viewer and for reproduction in a newspaper or magazine. 140
> character tweets are highly regarded over extensive well researched
> articles in newspapers, magazines and radio TV news.
>
> As this process continues, we will have a more and more ignorant populace
> and will be like fresh meat for political crackpots.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tina Manley
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:29 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] URL: USA freelance rates
>
> Almost all of the professional photographers I know have had to take
> another job to make ends meet.  I would never advise anybody to go into
> photography as a career these days.  Unfortunately, the best newspaper
> journalists I know have also had to find new careers.   The Charlotte
> Observer used to have wonderful photographers and journalists.  They've 
> let
> them all go.  The paper really suffers as a result.  Nobody proofreads
> anything and the photos are made by reporters with cell phones.
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Leo Wesson <leowesson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>>
>> Those rates are fairly accurate but the problem is that there are so many
>> really good photogs out there freelancing due to news outlets laying off
>> folks that gigs at those rates are hard to get.
>>
>> The other problem is that usually you have to assign all rights to the
>> people who hire you so if you do get that once in a lifetime image, you
>> will see no additional money from licensing it. You might even have to 
>> pay
>> to use the image in your self promotion.
>>
>> All the top level freelance pj photogs that I know struggle to make a
>> living.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Leo Wesson
>> Leowesson.com
>> 817-733-9157
>>
>> > On May 3, 2017, at 06:13, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>> >
>> > https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/freelance-photographers-pitch.php
>> >
>> > john
>> >
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