[Leica] OT: International Travel

[Steve Barbour]

On Feb 4, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
> I have no international travel plans at present, but shortly after 9-11, about two months, I traveled to Italy, and I found the Italians aghast at the thought of George Bush, but kind and sympathetic to me and understanding of my attitude that "I didn't vote for him, but there's another election in three years…"


yes, aghast, my friends and family in France were real and true, they were sad and sorry that we were trapped in that morass. After 9  11,  two days after the airports reopened, the plane was 2/3 empty……. Now I can’t imagine. but perhaps they are too busy worrying about their own future, for they they may well go through the same nightmare. Mes amis, attention!  It may take generations to recover from this, possibly longer for those who supported this odd attempt to gain equality.     





> 
> I can understand how Europeans would be unsettled at the thought of an American president that is so plainly Fascist, though. It has been reported by a highly reliable source that Trump kept an early book by Adolph Hitler on his nightstand.
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: John Beeching
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 12:04 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: International Travel
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I agree with Nathan.
> 
> My wife is Colombian by origin, now British, and we usually speak to each
> other in Spanish.  Since the Brexit vote she has ocassionally noted altered
> attitudes to her accent and to our speaking Spanish in the street.  But
> Europe is very cosmopolitan and generally welcoming to diversity.  I travel
> a lot around the world and would not feel inhibited from continuing  to do
> so.
> 
> John
> 
> On 4 February 2017 at 04:23, Peter Klein <boulanger.croissant at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Since the LUG includes travelers to and from all over the world, I'd like
>> to ask a question.  Americans, are any of you considering changing your
>> international travel plans in light of the last couple of weeks?  And
>> Europeans, do you have any indications that Americans might be made to feel
>> unwelcome in your countries, either by border officials or the "man or
>> woman on the street?"
>> 
>> I am NOT looking to start a political discussion.  We are trying to decide
>> whether or not to book airline tickets.  I was born in the U.S.  My wife is
>> a long-time naturalized citizen originally from Ukraine, and speaks with an
>> accent. Occasionally her background has led to minor but unnerving extra
>> scrutiny when traveling. And that was before all the "exciting" new
>> developments since Jan 20.
>> 
>> Feel free to respond by direct email if things might stray beyond what is
>> appropriate for the LUG.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
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