[Leica] From the Ilford blog - FOR LLUIS

[Lluis Ripoll]

Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for your information and examples. In my opinion Kodak  BW400CN was much better than Ilford, Maybe you have processed differently the dark areas?

Concerning developping I think I can obtain good developping in C-41, some years ago it was as well excellent places to develop B&W but today is better if you do it yourself  at your  preferences, concerning scanning I’ve never found a professional good service, at least at a reasonable price, I prefer scan my self too, I’m using Vuescan and I scan obtaining DNG files at 16 bit.

The last picture look really perfect but maybe I prefer the character of the traditionnal films….

Thanks a lot!
Cheers
Lluis


> El 28 des 2017, a les 12:34, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va escriure:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> FWIW: I started using chromogenic film at roughly the time I joined the LUG
> (years ago). I found that the processing is generally straightforward for most
> shops that do things like checking quality of the developer before and after
> running a batch through.
> 
> The real issue is scanning. Gerry is right, there is little reason that it
> should not scan well and give great tonality. HOWEVER, if you ask most
> developing shops to scan it, they just treat it like a single-channel jpeg (in
> my experience)
> 
> I used to get mine scanned onto CD as high res .TIFFs which gave me something
> close to 24Mpixel; more than good enough for printing from and for treating as I
> would RAW files.
> 
> I used Kodak 400CN. I haven't tried the Fuji, but I found that the Ilford films
> tend to be a little darker.
> 
> This is a BW400CN shot:
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_120051010.jpg.html>
> 
> This is the same taken on XP2:
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album230/album284/Camelot_2XP220051010.jpg.html>
> 
> sorry about the glare! The only other difference is that (I think) the former
> was taken on my IIIf and the latter on my M3.
> 
> BW400CN was capable of this sort of thing:
> 
> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/PeterDzwig/album164/MillerPerfectCircle.jpg.html>
> 
> Bear in mind that all have been converted to formats and sizes that  the gallery
> was happy with at the time.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 28/12/2017 08:50, Gerry Walden wrote:
>> Lluis
>> 
>> I started using chromogenic films when I decided the time had come to get rid of my darkroom. At that time there were a number of local places that I could get GOOD C-41 processing without handling problems etc. so it was a good alternative for me. My favourite was Kodak T-Max 400CN which (sadly) is no longer available, but I have found that the Fuji Neopan 400CN is a very good alternative which scans excellently with good contrast and virtually non-existant grain. However the problem now is that there is nowhere locally that will do professional standard C-41 processing. I never did like the Ilford version, and the suggestion that you down rate it to 200iso made it a bit of a non-starter for me.
>> 
>> As for printing, I cannot comment because (as stated above) I started using chromogenic when I did away with my darkroom. However I see no reason why t should not print well once you get used to it but it does tend to have a lower contrast level. It certainly scans very well.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>> www.gwpics.com
>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Dec 2017, at 18:37, Lluis Ripoll <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations my friend! Great pictures! well desserved!
>>> 
>>> I see you did a great use of chromogenic film, I think I’ve never used it… or maybe once many years ago…., at least in scanned woork theuy offer good gradation and contrast, I don’t know with enlargements on the darkroom, did you test them against the traditional enlargements from panchromatic film?
>>> 
>>> Have a happy Christmas time!
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 22 des 2017, a les 7:18, Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Just had this published by Ilford:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/ <https://www.ilfordphoto.com/pre-visualisation-black-white-photography/>
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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