[Leica] Hillary For Prison Sign Behind Barbed Wire

Thu Sep 29 13:47:42 PDT 2016

Just my thoughts, thanks Tina

Amities
Philippe, definitely not involved in US politics, but curious about the
world all the same.

2016-09-29 22:37 GMT+02:00 Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>:

> I would think it would be hard to discuss documentary photography without
> discussing the political aspects of the photo.  Social documentary, in
> particular, is supposed to stir your emotions so that you do something
> about the issue being photographed.  I hope mine does!
>
> Just discussing the quality of the photo without discussing its meaning
> seems more like a photo club than a serious photo discussion group.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong but I see nothing wrong with discussing the politics that
> prompted someone to take a photo and whether or not the photo succeeded in
> influencing anyone one way or another.
>
> A neighbor and friend of mine took some wonderful photos of the riots in
> Charlotte (he uses Leicas and Nikons) showing what the mainstream media did
> not.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/mike.baker.9822/media_set?set=a.
> 1455528411129062.1073741861.100000157513707&type=3&pnref=story
>
> or if you are not on FB:
> http://u0000chlegfqw7ou.photoshelter.com/gallery/
> Charlotte-North-Carolina-Riot/G0000t99OSAeIMlI/
>
> We could discuss the exposures, framing, noise-level, color balance, etc.
> of his photos, but that does not get at what the photos are about.  You
> have to discuss the content of the photos, not just the technical quality.
>
> I would certainly not want to get into a debate about Hillary and Trump.
>  (I get enough of that on FB!)  But any photo group that cannot discuss the
> politics behind our own photographs is a camera group, not a photo group.
> I thought we were beyond that.
>
> Tina
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ted,
> >
> > When you say ""PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DRAGGING your politics onto the "LUG
> > screen!", it meant to me that you don't want to see images like Chris
> > posted.
> >
> > If you're suggesting we do not discuss the political aspects of the
> image,
> > I'm all for that.
> >
> > Of those posts that I now assume prompted yours, none discussed the
> image,
> > only the political content.
> >
> > That also changes how I view Monte's post, since now I gather he wrote of
> > Scott, Steve and Bharani's posts.
> >
> > My peeve is when a nice picture gets posted and a long thread develops
> that
> > has nothing to do with the quality of the images, and I was afraid this
> was
> > one of those times.
> >
> > Sorry if you felt I was jumping you, but it seemed that your post and
> > those of several people were out to censor his image.
> >
> > I guess we're two old goats trying to chew on the same tin can.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > OK CREW!
> > > "ENOUGH ABOUT CHRIS, ALREADY!"
> > > YES HE IS WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST PRODUCTIVE "PHOTOJOURNALIST ON
> > SCREEN!"
> > > DOCUMENTING HIS LIFE AND THE AREAS WHERE HE LIVES!
> > > MY INITIAL COMMENT WAS "AFTER OTHERS" STARTED BRINGING IN YOUR OWN
> > > POLITICAL
> > > SITUATION.
> > > I ASKED POLITELY ONLY THAT THE "POLITICAL SUBJECT NOT BECOME A
> SUBJECT!"
> > > YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP CHRIS! LEAVE THE POOR GUY ALONE AND DO WHAT I FIRST
> > > POLITELY ASKED???
> > > Let's keep politics off the LUG screen! Once again.
> > > Thank you all!
> > > cheers,
> > > Dr. ted Grant CM ORDER of CANADA
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > George Lottermoser
> > > Sent: September-29-16 10:24 AM
> > > To: Leica Users Group
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Hillary For Prison Sign Behind Barbed Wire
> > >
> > > Agree totally.
> > > Chris qualifies as the most serious documentarian that I know.
> > > He also has the most consistent body of work; of my acquaintance via
> this
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:32, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > However,  if this board is gonna be open to snickering at people,
> then
> > it
> > > > certainly should be tolerant of honest documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Chris gets out there rain or shine, spending his hard earned time and
> > > money
> > > > to do his art.
> > > >
> > > > Look at his bio, examine his body of work, and you'll find one of the
> > > most
> > > > serious documentary artists on the LUG.
> > >
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