[Leica] Hillary For Prison Sign Behind Barbed Wire

[Tina Manley]

I would think it would be hard to discuss documentary photography without
discussing the political aspects of the photo.  Social documentary, in
particular, is supposed to stir your emotions so that you do something
about the issue being photographed.  I hope mine does!

Just discussing the quality of the photo without discussing its meaning
seems more like a photo club than a serious photo discussion group.

Maybe I'm wrong but I see nothing wrong with discussing the politics that
prompted someone to take a photo and whether or not the photo succeeded in
influencing anyone one way or another.

A neighbor and friend of mine took some wonderful photos of the riots in
Charlotte (he uses Leicas and Nikons) showing what the mainstream media did
not.

https://www.facebook.com/mike.baker.9822/media_set?set=a.1455528411129062.1073741861.100000157513707&type=3&pnref=story

or if you are not on FB:
http://u0000chlegfqw7ou.photoshelter.com/gallery/Charlotte-North-Carolina-Riot/G0000t99OSAeIMlI/

We could discuss the exposures, framing, noise-level, color balance, etc.
of his photos, but that does not get at what the photos are about.  You
have to discuss the content of the photos, not just the technical quality.

I would certainly not want to get into a debate about Hillary and Trump.
 (I get enough of that on FB!)  But any photo group that cannot discuss the
politics behind our own photographs is a camera group, not a photo group.
I thought we were beyond that.

Tina


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ted,
>
> When you say ""PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DRAGGING your politics onto the "LUG
> screen!", it meant to me that you don't want to see images like Chris
> posted.
>
> If you're suggesting we do not discuss the political aspects of the image,
> I'm all for that.
>
> Of those posts that I now assume prompted yours, none discussed the image,
> only the political content.
>
> That also changes how I view Monte's post, since now I gather he wrote of
> Scott, Steve and Bharani's posts.
>
> My peeve is when a nice picture gets posted and a long thread develops that
> has nothing to do with the quality of the images, and I was afraid this was
> one of those times.
>
> ​Sorry if you felt I was jumping you, but it seemed that your post and
> those of several people ​were out to censor his image.
>
> I guess we're two old goats trying to chew on the same tin can.
>
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> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > OK CREW!
> > "ENOUGH ABOUT CHRIS, ALREADY!"
> > YES HE IS WITHOUT QUESTION THE MOST PRODUCTIVE "PHOTOJOURNALIST ON
> SCREEN!"
> > DOCUMENTING HIS LIFE AND THE AREAS WHERE HE LIVES!
> > MY INITIAL COMMENT WAS "AFTER OTHERS" STARTED BRINGING IN YOUR OWN
> > POLITICAL
> > SITUATION.
> > I ASKED POLITELY ONLY THAT THE "POLITICAL SUBJECT NOT BECOME A SUBJECT!"
> > YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP CHRIS! LEAVE THE POOR GUY ALONE AND DO WHAT I FIRST
> > POLITELY ASKED???
> > Let's keep politics off the LUG screen! Once again.
> > Thank you all!
> > cheers,
> > Dr. ted Grant CM ORDER of CANADA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > George Lottermoser
> > Sent: September-29-16 10:24 AM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Hillary For Prison Sign Behind Barbed Wire
> >
> > Agree totally.
> > Chris qualifies as the most serious documentarian that I know.
> > He also has the most consistent body of work; of my acquaintance via this
> > list.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Sep 29, 2016, at 10:32, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > However,  if this board is gonna be open to snickering at people, then
> it
> > > certainly should be tolerant of honest documentation.
> > >
> > > Chris gets out there rain or shine, spending his hard earned time and
> > money
> > > to do his art.
> > >
> > > Look at his bio, examine his body of work, and you'll find one of the
> > most
> > > serious documentary artists on the LUG.
> >
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>
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