[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
Bernard Quinn
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Thu Nov 10 15:25:46 PST 2016
I agree with Tina. Some explanation might help. Some members of my family are Jewish. I watched on TV as people chanted Jew S A, Jew S A, Jew S A. I fear for them. Some of us are concerned and frightened for very real reason.
Barney
Barney Quinn, WK3Z
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> On Nov 10, 2016, at 5:40 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ted -
>
> This should all be moved to the forum, but a word of explanation first. We
> in the USA are going through the five stages of grief and loss. I, for
> one, still cannot believe what happened on Tuesday night. I have not
> recovered. We have to go through 1. Denial and isolation; 2. Anger; 3.
> Bargaining; 4. Depression; 5. Acceptance.
>
> I'm not sure I'll ever get to acceptance, but I'm in anger right now.
>
> Yes, I've been going back through old photos and posting some on FB. That
> is some consolation to me that there was a past and there might be a future.
>
> Tina
>
>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> oH PLEASE,LET'S PUT IT BEHIND US ALL!
>> NONE OF US, particularly me!" Can change anything. Forget the politics! No
>> matter how you feel? None of you are going to change anything "TODAY!"
>> If the sun happens to be shining? Nip outside and give yourself a moment
>> assignment to look for an image? GO CLICK! IT'S A BEAUTY! SMILE! GO AND
>> POST
>> IT! :-)
>> We'll smile, pat you on the back whomever you are and we'll quietly slip
>> back into our normal life of being "HAPPY SNAPPING PHOTOGS!"
>> THANK YOU ALL!
>> cheers,
>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. CANADA MEDAL.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Christopher Crawford
>> Sent: November-10-16 1:19 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
>> Importance: Low
>>
>> Are you being deliberately obtuse?
>>
>> Of course I earn my living doing photography. The work I post here is not
>> my commercial work. Its not very interesting, but it pays the bills. I
>> don’t expect anyone here to buy my prints, but when you come on here
>> telling me what I SHOULD be photographing, then you need to pay me for
>> working for you. Since you aren’t hiring me, I will continue to shoot and
>> post what I want and if you don’t like it that’s just too damned bad.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Crawford
>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-437-8990
>>
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/10/16, 3:50 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe Amard"
>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>> photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know about the details Chris, but you told me/us you worked for
>>> the
>>> money.
>>>
>>> For me that's a good reason to shoot; the keyword is survival.
>>>
>>> Yet, is it a good reason to share your commercial art on the lug and other
>>> lists?
>>>
>>> How many of us luggers, Oly users and others have bought your prints?
>>>
>>> The LUG and the Oly list are not market squares, they're for friendship,
>>> openness and photography or vice-versa.
>>>
>>> Locked in your own world, how many times have you congratulated any of the
>>> other posters?
>>>
>>> What do you share with them, us, me? Bucks?
>>>
>>> I'm sorry this appalling episode in your history takes us all so much way
>>> downwards, really sorry.
>>>
>>> Philippe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-11-10 21:25 GMT+01:00 Christopher Crawford <
>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>:
>>>
>>>> Steve’s attacking me because he thinks that I am posting these photos to
>>>> support Trump. I’m not. As I have said MULTIPLE times, I am documenting
>>>> the culture and people of Indiana. Like it or not, Indiana’s people
>>>> supported Trump. That’s what I documented.
>>>>
>>>> Steve’s comment that I need to take ‘good pictures’ is like someone
>>>> online
>>>> going out of their way to criticize another poster’s spelling because
>>>> they
>>>> didn’t have the courage or the intelligence to criticize the ideas in
>>>> the
>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>> As I have stated, I will not be bullied by narrow minded people into
>>>> changing what I photograph. Don’t like my work? Don’t look at it. Its as
>>>> simple as that.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/16, 2:30 PM, "LUG on behalf of Douglas Barry"
>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>>>> imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I now see what Steve B wrote to rile Chris. I've moved it up in
>>>> this
>>>>> email to make it easier to see. Steve, it seems a strange place to
>>>> bury a
>>>>> fairly inflammatory comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are you trying to achieve?
>>>>>
>>>>> Douglas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> people think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> steve
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Steve Barbour" <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "LUG list" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 5:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee guys it's all over in less than 24 hours!
>>>>>>> "DO PLEASE TRY AND GET ALONG?" :-)
>>>>>>> I mean you've had near two years to vent this stuff and here we are
>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>> day and you are at each other's throats like a couple of wild
>>>>>>> roosters
>>>>>>> at a
>>>>>>> hen party! :-)
>>>>>>> My suggestion? Not that it means anything in your country. But it's
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> "FAR MORE INTERESTING TOMORROW AFTER RESULTS COME OUT!" Actually
>>>> quite
>>>>>>> wild
>>>>>>> I bet? "CLOSE the HATCHES & dive deep!"
>>>>>>> Be good boys until it's over, Thank you.
>>>>>>> Now take two aspirins and call me after 10 a.m. tomorrow. Thank you
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> kindly. :-)
>>>>>>> Now relax!
>>>>>>> CHRIS: you go look for signs! :-)
>>>>>>> SONNY: You go look for flowers in Adrian's garden! :-)
>>>>>>> Now don't you both feel better? :-) :-)
>>>>>>> Jeeeessh I hope this avoids a CIVIL WAR? :-)
>>>>>>> KINDEST REGARDS TO BOTH.
>>>>>>> Dr. Ted Grant C.M. Order of Canada
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>> Christopher Crawford
>>>>>>> Sent: November-07-16 7:38 PM
>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: Lock Both Up
>>>>>>> Importance: Low
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sonny,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tina Manley implied earlier today (post subject: Milestone) that she
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> leave the country if the election doesn’t turn out as she likes. I
>>>>>>> didn’t
>>>>>>> see any of your shrill outrage over that. To be clear, I am not
>>>> upset
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Tina’s post; its a free country and if she wants to leave its her
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>> It’ll be a great loss to our nation; but its her right to live where
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> wishes, and her right to voice her opinions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said in my last reply to you, I am not going to stop what I am
>>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>>> I explained why quite clearly, and I stand by it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/7/16, 10:03 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter"
>>>>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf
>>>> of
>>>>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My comment was not about your art. There are plenty places to
>>>> voice
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> opinion, and the forum is one such place. Don't embarrass yourself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Crawford
>>>>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I¹m not going to stop voicing my opinions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is my job, I am an artist. We make people think and we
>>>> sometimes
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> people uncomfortable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to make people think, how about some good pictures that
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> people think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Those of us who work in the medium of photography
>>>>>>>>> document life; we¹re historians, sociologists, psychologists,
>>>>>>>>> anthropologists, and artists all wrapped into one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes the real world is crazy, scary, dangerous, uncivilized,
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> cruel. We cannot put our heads in the sand and refuse to confront
>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> world; to do so allows the triumph of evil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/7/16, 8:48 PM, "LUG on behalf of Sonny Carter"
>>>>>>>>> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on
>>>> behalf
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I stood up for you when the subject of your images was under fire
>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> However, when you voice your own political opinion, I'll suggest
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> it to the forum.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sonny Carter
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:17 PM, Christopher Crawford
>>>>>>>>>>> <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This sign pretty much sums up my feelings about the 2016
>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential
>>>>>>>>>>> Election. Lock Both Up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This handmade sign was posted in the middle of West State
>>>>>>>>>>> Boulevard
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> western edge of Fort Wayne, Indiana.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://chriscrawfordphoto.com/chris-details.php?product=2535
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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