[Leica] M7 body coming - UPDATE

Gerry Walden gerry.walden at icloud.com
Wed Mar 16 23:27:15 PDT 2016 

A quick update so far, now that I have shot a few frames and had the film processed.

1. I keep forgetting I have to wind the film on (oops!);

2. I very nearly forgot that I have to wind the film back before I take the base off (oops#2!);

3. I have tried Fuji Neopan 400CN (C-41 process) which I understand is made in the same plant as Ilford films, and I found it impossible to get a good scan using Vuescan but it scans just fine in Silverfast: and

4. Having read Peter’s bit below I may well try Ilford Delta 400 through Ilford next.

I have scanned the images (nothing great!) and will post something to day or tomorrow,

Gerry

> On 16 Mar 2016, at 23:49, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
> 
> I have to add a rider to this:
> 
> I went back to Ilford and complained. They apologised profusely and say that
> they had the TIFFs still available but had written to CD as JPEGs in a variety
> of resolutions, because that is their standard practice apparently.
> 
> They then downloaded the TIFFs to me directly. I have to say that the standard
> is very high and the resolution vastly increased, the tonality shows much
> greater depth and the noise correction that they apply has worked wonderfully.
> FWIW the TIFFs are 13.5 Mb on disk, 4500 x 3000 pixels greyscale.
> 
> Originally they only sent me back the results from one film, but a gentle push
> and the other was downloaded from the archive too.
> 
> So: A bit of a you-know-what, but put right in the end. Glad that I complained.
> 
> Outcome: Ilford are very much back in the frame. Just be careful to check what
> they do.
> 
> Peter
> 
> On 13/03/2016 22:59, Peter Dzwig wrote:
>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite limited...basically to
>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>> 
>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A lot of these
>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble experience.
>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly excellent) local
>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>> 
>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev shop and Ilford
>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who now run it
>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a piece of
>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a JPEG. Trouble
>> was that they were only 1M.
>> 
>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the variation
>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>> 
>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that relationship.
>> 
>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing machine
>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than supply JPEGs
>> 
>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>> Hi Gerry,
>>> 
>>> Permit me to jump in—while film selection is not as good as 20 years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
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>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I’m a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc… , I have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 12 març 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to play with it again. Back to the world of exploring which film is best handled by the processors I guess because i don't want to get into the processing side of life, which I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
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