[Leica] sensor corrosion

Sat Mar 12 17:54:03 PST 2016

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 5:45 PM, lluisripollphotography <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Tina and all members,
> 
> It is really complicated have information from the Leica website, I went to the LFI Forum and it is announced the 1st September 2015 the replacement for M9 sensors, not yet for the MM, on this announcement there is a source, you click there and you obtain the Official Leica announcement, where they are talking about NEW sensors for the M9:
> 
> <http://en.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Update-CCD-Sensor>
> 
> However, a friend said me that the same thing has been announced about one or two months ago for the MM, even that Leica has said that they have a delay of 4 months replacing the sensors, the interested persons shall ask Leica to give them a reference number and date to send the cameras.
> 
> After this mail I will try to search the announcement for the MM

you heard about all the monkees, randomly pounding on their typewriters. Eventually they may get a novel written, but a coherent leica policy on sensors?

steve

> 
> Cheers
> Lluis
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> El 13 març 2016, a les 0:53, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> va escriure:
>> 
>> Lluis -
>> 
>> This is the latest news I can find on Leica's site:
>> 
>> https://us.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Latest-information-CCD-sensors
>> 
>> Maybe they have finished all of the testing?
>> 
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 5:01 PM, lluisripollphotography <
>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> As far as I know the new replaced sensors for the M9 and MM will be not
>>> affected by corrosion. The new sensor for the M9 was announced maybe 10
>>> months ago, and the new sensor for the MM has been announced about one or
>>> two months ago, it was more difficult develop the new one for the MM and
>>> for this reason it has appeared later.
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 12 març 2016, a les 22:47, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> va
>>> escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> No, I'm right:
>>>> 
>>>> We have now identified the problem and are currently concentrating our
>>>> efforts on finding a permanent technical solution. The marks on images
>>>> mentioned earlier are related to the properties of the CCD sensor. The
>>>> sensors are equipped with a specially coated IR filter cover glass to
>>>> ensure optimum imaging performance. Should this coating layer be damaged,
>>>> corrosion effects that alter the filter surface may begin to appear after
>>>> several years.
>>>> 
>>>> The effect described does not affect the CMOS sensor of the Leica M (Typ
>>>> 240). Should you be considering an upgrade from your camera to a Leica M
>>> or
>>>> M-P (Typ 240), Customer Care would be pleased to make you an attractive
>>>> offer following a check of your camera and under consideration of the
>>> model
>>>> and its age.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tina
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't think so.  I think the new sensor is in the M240 and doesn't
>>> apply
>>>>> to the M9.  My understanding is that they will keep replacing the
>>> sensors
>>>>> for the M9 as long as they fail but they are still subject to
>>> corrosion.  I
>>>>> could be wrong, though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Scott Gregory <scottgregory at mac.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was under the impression that with the M9 they were now replacing the
>>>>>> sensor with the long awaited "new" one developed rather than the same
>>>>>> sensor???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They will replace the sensor for free or give you an upgrade to the
>>>>>> M240 and/or the M246. Replacing the sensor runs the risk of corrosion
>>> again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I finally woke up to the possibility that this may be an issue with
>>> my
>>>>>> M9 and my M monochrome. Bob Adler has been very kind in helping with
>>> some
>>>>>> of the issues, and answering my questions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Has this been a common problem? Can one search for damage with a
>>> slate
>>>>>> grey sky instead of blue? What sort of refund can one expect if damage
>>> is
>>>>>> found? I assume the 246 is the trade in option for the monochrome,
>>> what is
>>>>>> the trade in option for the M9?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Other observations and your thoughts are appreciated.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> many thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>> 
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