[Leica] M9 reliability question - from the Leica Website

[Douglas Sharp]

http://uk.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2015/Update-CCD-Sensor

*Dated 31/08/2015:*


      /"Update CCD Sensor of the Leica M9/M9-P/M
      Monochrom and M-E camera models/

//

/We are very pleased to inform you that we have 
successfully completed development on our new 
generation of CCD sensors and conducted subsequent 
quality assurance testing under practical conditions. 
As a result, Leica Camera AG can now begin replacing 
the sensors in the M9, M9-P and M-E models that were 
affected by corrosion with sensors from the new 
generation./

/Sensor replacement for M Monochrom models will also 
begin shortly. We will inform you of the precise date 
of this as soon as possible./

/On this note, we would like to remind our customers 
that we can only offer replacements for CCD sensors for 
cameras affected by this particular problem; 
prophylactic replacement is not possible./

/We thank you for your patience and for your loyalty to 
the Leica brand."/

Unfortunately, it doesn’t say exactly from when the 
"new generation" replacements are being installed. But 
it seems to indicate that any replacements made before 
31 August 2015 must have been with older generation 
sensors.

Cheers
Douglas


On 01.06.2016 23:03, Jim Nichols wrote:
> Nathan & Douglas,
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> A search turned up this:
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> http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/258531-m9-sensor/
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> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
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> On 6/1/2016 3:53 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> I have no idea when the cutover date was. I am 
>> basing my statements on Peter Klein’s post.
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>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
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>> Nathan Wajsman
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>>> On 01 Jun 2016, at 22:43, Douglas Barry 
>>> <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
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>>> Nathan, I'll pick your brain if I might as a Google 
>>> search has failed to clarify this.
>>> I didn't realise the sensor replacement was date 
>>> critical. The private one near me here in Ireland 
>>> had its sensor replaced 6 months ago by Leica. I 
>>> presume that's ok? If so, I just might make him an 
>>> offer.
>>>
>>> Douglas
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Wajsman" 
>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2016 8:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 reliability question
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>>>> Thanks to all who have replied. So the story is 
>>>> not that simple—not only do I need to know whether 
>>>> the sensor has been replaced but also whether it 
>>>> has been replaced with the old one or the new one. 
>>>> I have asked the seller when the replacement got 
>>>> done.
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>>>> And no, I do not want to deal with the hassle of 
>>>> sending a camera to Germany and then waiting for 
>>>> who knows how long. My previous experience sending 
>>>> my M8 for repair back in 2009 or 10 was not that 
>>>> great.
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
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>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu 
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>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>> Cycling: 
>>>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
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>>>>> On 01 Jun 2016, at 14:22, Frank Verizon 2 2016 
>>>>> <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
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>>>>> I would buy the one that has not had the sensor 
>>>>> replaced, if I could determine the replacement is 
>>>>> required. Then I would send it in for sensor 
>>>>> replacement, getting the complete camera checked 
>>>>> out and adjusted for free.
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>>>>> There are those that would say buying a 
>>>>> non-current digicam is silly. You are buying old 
>>>>> technology. Not as good. My argument is that if 
>>>>> it does the job you want, when you buy it, the 
>>>>> age of the technology is not relevant.
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>>>>> The M9 has proven itself to me to be reliable and 
>>>>> a great back end for Leica glass.
>>>>>
>>>>> $2500 is a bargain
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
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>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 12:05 AM, Nathan Wajsman 
>>>>> <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have always said that once the M9 prices come 
>>>>> down to a level that I am prepared to pay, I will 
>>>>> buy one. Well, in the past week I have seen two 
>>>>> for sale, for $2500 and $2200, respectively. The 
>>>>> one I saw this morning has had the sensor 
>>>>> replaced. Those prices are within my range, but I 
>>>>> now have doubts about reliability. Clearly, 
>>>>> buying an M9 that has not had a sensor 
>>>>> replacement is out of the question; but in case 
>>>>> one has had it, is the new sensor reliable—or is 
>>>>> it just a matter of time before it starts rotting 
>>>>> just like the original one did? And are there 
>>>>> other reliability issues besides the sensor? 
>>>>> Digital Leicas have not had a stellar record.
>>>>>
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