[Leica] What would you conclude?

Wed Dec 7 14:43:01 PST 2016

Hi Nathan, 
You are quite right! Leica's error was/is they've made/developed cameras few
people can afford these days unless they are movie stars or princes! We
working photogs??????? Well not me these days. But the many still about the
world scraping by! :-(
I'm finally getting it through my mind, Leica's day is coming slowly to a
silent end being completely swamped due to all the new picture taking
apparatus.
I think they will come to an end because the "I-phone & like cameras" will
bury them simply because more and more professionals are using some type of
this recording machine, capturing beautiful photos! The results when you're
looking at images shot by fine photographers, pros. and amateurs. The
results even at 13X19 print size are quite amazing. AND GETTING BETTER!
That's Leica's death nell! "Getting better!"  When you have a talented
professional or excellent amateur. Remember the end result isn't due to the
camera. Leica or otherwise? It's the human being holding, operating with a
photographic vision that observes the great photo of the day! CLICK!
Leica? Oh yeah?  that was one of those old time cameras used by magazine
photogs way back when?!"
"Oh Yeah whatever happened to them?? The LEICA? Oh they're in the photo
museums now! 
cheers,
Dr. Ted Grant O. C. 

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Nathan Wajsman
Sent: December-07-16 1:10 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] What would you conclude?

Sorry to say this, but I think Leica no longer cares about superb
photographers like Doug or Tina or Ted. Their target market these days are
Qatari princes looking for neck jewelry.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
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> On 07 Dec 2016, at 21:51, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> DOUG!
> Without question that is absolute "BULL-SHIT!" On the part of LEICA!!! 
> I assume you sent it to LEICA USA? And after 8 months and you get it back
in
> worse shape than you sent it? IE: "Back lens cap & lens mount smashed?" 
> Now I'll calm my lashing tongue and mental rage for a moment! :-(
> 1/ I'd immediately by phone attempt to contact whomever is head person in
> Leica New Jersey and see what re-action you receive? Speak nicely as I
know
> you would!
> 2/ Prepare a letter outlining (what you have told the crew) along with
> photos! Close-ups as you've shown here, plus more where damage is visible.
> Obviously in your words you describe "Front of lens damage!" This photo is
> the rear lens cap and rear lens mount to body! 
> Yet you said it was the "FRONT of LENS????? That required replacement? And
> if it was the front of lens?
> OBVIOUSLY LEICA DROPPED THE LENS AND SMASHED THE REAR CONNECTION!" While
in
> their custody?
> This isn't a "Nickel & dime" lens to buy and they've made it worse by
> smashing it more?And no PARTS?
> Once you have everything ready to ship and before you package it. SHOW IT
> ALL TO A LAWYER to verify his/her seeing it.
> Now once you have all the photos ready and written outline? Find out who
the
> most super head guy is in Germany. Don't do anything yet. 
> But as soon as you have your "ONE on ONE" conversation with super head guy
> in New Jersey and what happens? And if it's crap from him? You ship
package
> of photos and details to head guy in Germany airmail.
> If nothing comes of all this? Contact the PHOTO MAGAZINES with a scorching
> story of the whole mess! 
> The Ace you have is? You are an outstanding "Wild Life" professional
> photographer of great accountability with your photo results!
> By the same token it's your call economically and just how far you wish to
> push this?
> If LEICA had any balls, certainly in your professional case?  THEY'D GIVE
> YOU A NEW LENSE!!!
> I can only wish you all the possible success for a positive outcome.
> HOWEVER????????????????
> cheers,
> Dr. Ted Grant O.of C.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of
> Doug Herr
> Sent: December-07-16 10:31 AM
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] What would you conclude?
> 
> Suppose that 8 months ago you'd sent your most-used lens to Leica for
repair
> (it was dropped, the front rim has a dent and there are tight spots in to
> focussing ring)
> 
> Suppose further that the lens returned yesterday, unprepared due to a lack
> of parts.
> 
> And then suppose you opened the package to find this:
> 
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com/temp/_DSC4766.jpg
> 
> Aside from having sent the lens to bumbling idiots, what would you
conclude?
> 
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> 
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