[Leica] BIG new Leica

Sun Oct 25 08:16:43 PDT 2015

. .  . And everyone else's stink but your own.

from my iPad

Sonny Carter

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
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>> You’re such a sad wanker, Mark. Your hate of the M8 is pathological. On the one hand you come across as a total Leica fan boy, but on the other hand you have no experience with any of the cameras about which you pontificate.
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> "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one".
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> steve
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>> Here are three random images from my PAD site:
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>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-2nQcdR3/A
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-cMmWJBk/A
>> http://www.greatpix.eu/All/Picture-A-Day/i-6BSFF6B/A
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>> (all three from this year)
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>> Nathan
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>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
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>>> On 25 Oct 2015, at 00:48, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
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>>> The last time anyone posted a shot taken with an M8 was when?
>>> There are about none in use.
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>>>> On 10/24/15 6:34 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>> Mark, the point is you've never used it, many people are using it now with
>>>> great results, and you were called out for a negative opinion of a Leica you'd
>>>> never used vs. your claim that people give you a hard time for a positive
>>>> opinion of Leica equipment.
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>>>> Doug Herr
>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>>> Sent: Oct 24, 2015 3:08 PM
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] BIG new Leica
>>>>> 
>>>>> The M8 was one disaster after another almost weekly new issues and was
>>>>> looked upon by the entire photo community was awe and dismay as the bad news
>>>>> kept coming in  it like no camera anyone ever heard of.  It way out Edseled
>>>>> the Edsel.  Yet it did keep Leica in the lens selling business new lenses
>>>>> and paved the way for the almost commercially viable M9  (largely ignored by
>>>>> pros) and at least was not an embarrassment which paved the way for the
>>>>> completely commercially viable M out now.. But by then though all the
>>>>> serious Leica shooters had gone DSLR and were not in a hurry to invest in
>>>>> seven grand bodies with six grand glass which required more than one body as
>>>>> at least of them is going to be in a far off shop for not a short time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For Leica to have gotten its very first digital attempt right and seamlessly
>>>>> jumped right into the digital camera business would have been much more
>>>>> interesting and unlikely news. It was a huge leap for Leica to make and
>>>>> guess what it didn't make it all that wonderfully and instantly.
>>>>> And I dare to disparage the M8!  If somebody wants to read positive stuff on
>>>>> the M8 they're going to have to read it here became they're not going to
>>>>> find it anywhere else. Its a blooper the modern Leica company would love to
>>>>> forget. And please tell us about how you're using it for infra red.
>>>>> I think the die hards all but one or two have been stuck with the fact that
>>>>> their camera have locked up and died and its a lesson hopefully well
>>>>> learned. Be careful about buying first outs from companies who have close to
>>>>> zero experience in a new burgeoning technology but plenty of experience in
>>>>> the opposite.
>>>>> Had the camera been successful it would have been a minor modern miracle.
>>>>> With a little luck it would have had a few less issues. But that luck with
>>>>> not to be found that time round.
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>>>>>> On 10/24/15 5:46 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
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>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I remain the only person on any photo list who gets is opinions thrown back
>>>>>>> at him if he doesn't have a notarized receipt of the item at hand. It makes
>>>>>>> me feel very special. I've notice the most I get in trouble on this list is
>>>>>>> when I say something positive about a Leica product.
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>>>>>> It's also when you say something negative about something you've never used,
>>>>>> Leica or otherwise.  Do you recall the M8?
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>>>>>> Doug Herr
>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
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>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>> Photographer
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
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>>> Mark William Rabiner
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