[Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 (Adam Bridge)

Thu Oct 22 06:33:47 PDT 2015

smart guy

well said

ric


> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:03 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I guess I am the old and grumpy ex-editor guy (I don't know how Jim managed
> for 8 years!)
> The format and the requirements for this 10th edition is exactly the same
> as the last 9 years.
> If this was to be changed now, it makes a LOT of extra work for Richard,
> not to mention I guarantee that people would be unhappy no matter which
> submitted images he chose for a final edit. Don't put that on him. Imagine
> if photog A sends in say 10 he is really proud of but only 2 are chose, But
> Photog B has 5 images included. Right now the editor is a compiler and
> coordinator for everyone's benefit. No-one has ever judged any yearbook
> image.
> 
> No-one buys the book either unless they contribute. A tiny book with few
> contributors will have no more customers than that either. I did exactly
> that with two books containing 5 images each by some great LUG
> photographers  like Tina and Ted for example. People just won't buy these,
> even at cost .You don't have to buy it as a contributor either of course.
> We did introduce a lower cost way of having it though (the E book)
> 
> It's only 2 images you need to pick and contribute people! You had nearly a
> whole year to shoot and choose for yourself and you still have weeks to
> submit them. I extended that period last year, ending it 2 weeks earlier so
> I wasn't editing up to midnight on NYE. As it was I got complaint on
> Christmas morning which was the final straw on why I quit.
> My experience with the longer contribution period was that the first weeks
> brought only a trickle of images and despite dozens of posts advertising
> and explaining everything I still got people who told me they weren't aware
> of the slightly earlier cutoff.
> 
> Mark I can see on my bookshelf that you contributed images some years back.
> Are you going to contribute to this one then?
> Adam you are good until mid December. I look forward to seeing your images
> in the book.
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:12:34 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
>> more
>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less people
>> are submitting pictures.
>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them
>> all.
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/18/15 9:17 AM, "Dan Khong" <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> I think you will get more contributors along the way till closing date.
>>> 
>>> If there are few contributors this year, then we have a thin book. If
>> there
>>> are more contributors, then we have a thicker book. Either way, there
>> will be
>>> a 2015 LUG Year Book. The fact of the matter is that we have people like
>> you,
>>> and Jim and Geoff who have sacrificially decided to organise LUG Year
>> Books
>>> despite all the bellyaching from people who own the finest equipment in
>> this
>>> world but prefer to keep their images to themselves.
>>> 
>>> But there are others not like them, so we are thankful for the handful
>> who
>>> care enough to support.
>>> 
>>> Dan K.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:29:49 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably not
>> one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>> 
>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
>> more
>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
>> people
>>> are submitting pictures.
>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them
>>> all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:43:32 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> Creativity happens in a last minute pace; nothing happens without a
>> deadline
>> and deadlines have a way of being gone over but at least there was
>> something
>> to go over. Deadline extensions are not that unusual.. Depending on how the
>> person laying out the whole thing can deal with it.
>> Also as someone said nothing all that horrible about one year having a
>> thinner issue.
>> 
>> On 10/21/15 12:29 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
>> not one
>>> most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images puts
>> the
>>> burden of editing on them.
>> 
>> Somehow I¹ve missed the date for submissions.
>>> We¹re only in October, however. Most of us are used to the traditional
>>> end-of-year deadline. I admit that I¹ve missed the actual deadline
>>> date.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner
>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that the people submitting
>>> pictures should be allowed to submit more
>>> pictures especially in a case
>>> where you're finding a year where less people
>>> are submitting pictures.
>>> 
>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
>> them>
>>> all.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See
>>> http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:14:43 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> Adam
>> 
>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>>> 
>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
>> more
>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
>> people
>>>> are submitting pictures.
>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
>> them
>>>> all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:33:15 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> You have two months for two pics.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>>> 
>>> Gerry
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
>> submit more
>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
>> people
>>>>> are submitting pictures.
>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
>> them
>>>>> all.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:30:30 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting more
>> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to put
>> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
>> 
>> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
>> 
>> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
>> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> You have two months for two pics.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
>>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
>>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
>> images
>>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
>>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
>>> submit more
>>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
>>> people
>>>>>> are submitting pictures.
>>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
>>> them
>>>>>> all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> To: LUG list <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:39:46 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting
>> more
>>> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to
>> put
>>> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
>> 
>> 
>> meaning what?
>> 
>>> 
>>> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
>>> 
>>> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
>>> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You have two months for two pics.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
>>>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
>>>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
>> images
>>>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>>>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
>>>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
>>>> submit more
>>>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
>>>> people
>>>>>>> are submitting pictures.
>>>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
>>>> them
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:15:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>> Meaning that if you are inspired to send in more than 2, feel free. I may
>> or may not put in more than 2.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting
>>> more
>>>> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to
>>> put
>>>> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> meaning what?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
>>>> 
>>>> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
>>>> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <
>> steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You have two months for two pics.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased
>> to
>>>>> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and
>> probably
>>>>> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
>>> images
>>>>> puts the burden of editing on them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
>>>>> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline.
>> I
>>>>> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
>>>>> submit more
>>>>>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where
>> less
>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> are submitting pictures.
>>>>>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't
>> accept
>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
>> information
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>>>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>> 
>> 
>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>> 
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information