[Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15 (Adam Bridge)

Wed Oct 21 18:03:19 PDT 2015

I guess I am the old and grumpy ex-editor guy (I don't know how Jim managed
for 8 years!)
The format and the requirements for this 10th edition is exactly the same
as the last 9 years.
If this was to be changed now, it makes a LOT of extra work for Richard,
not to mention I guarantee that people would be unhappy no matter which
submitted images he chose for a final edit. Don't put that on him. Imagine
if photog A sends in say 10 he is really proud of but only 2 are chose, But
Photog B has 5 images included. Right now the editor is a compiler and
coordinator for everyone's benefit. No-one has ever judged any yearbook
image.

No-one buys the book either unless they contribute. A tiny book with few
contributors will have no more customers than that either. I did exactly
that with two books containing 5 images each by some great LUG
photographers  like Tina and Ted for example. People just won't buy these,
even at cost .You don't have to buy it as a contributor either of course.
We did introduce a lower cost way of having it though (the E book)

It's only 2 images you need to pick and contribute people! You had nearly a
whole year to shoot and choose for yourself and you still have weeks to
submit them. I extended that period last year, ending it 2 weeks earlier so
I wasn't editing up to midnight on NYE. As it was I got complaint on
Christmas morning which was the final straw on why I quit.
My experience with the longer contribution period was that the first weeks
brought only a trickle of images and despite dozens of posts advertising
and explaining everything I still got people who told me they weren't aware
of the slightly earlier cutoff.

Mark I can see on my bookshelf that you contributed images some years back.
Are you going to contribute to this one then?
Adam you are good until mid December. I look forward to seeing your images
in the book.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:12:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
> more
> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less people
> are submitting pictures.
> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them
> all.
>
>
> On 10/18/15 9:17 AM, "Dan Khong" <dankhong at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Richard
> >
> > I think you will get more contributors along the way till closing date.
> >
> > If there are few contributors this year, then we have a thin book. If
> there
> > are more contributors, then we have a thicker book. Either way, there
> will be
> > a 2015 LUG Year Book. The fact of the matter is that we have people like
> you,
> > and Jim and Geoff who have sacrificially decided to organise LUG Year
> Books
> > despite all the bellyaching from people who own the finest equipment in
> this
> > world but prefer to keep their images to themselves.
> >
> > But there are others not like them, so we are thankful for the handful
> who
> > care enough to support.
> >
> > Dan K.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 09:29:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably not
> one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
> puts the burden of editing on them.
>
> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
>
> Adam
>
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
> more
> > pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
> people
> > are submitting pictures.
> > Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept them
> > all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:43:32 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> Creativity happens in a last minute pace; nothing happens without a
> deadline
> and deadlines have a way of being gone over but at least there was
> something
> to go over. Deadline extensions are not that unusual.. Depending on how the
> person laying out the whole thing can deal with it.
> Also as someone said nothing all that horrible about one year having a
> thinner issue.
>
> On 10/21/15 12:29 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
> not one
> > most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images puts
> the
> > burden of editing on them.
>
> Somehow I¹ve missed the date for submissions.
> > We¹re only in October, however. Most of us are used to the traditional
> > end-of-year deadline. I admit that I¹ve missed the actual deadline
> > date.
>
> Adam
>
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner
> > <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think that the people submitting
> > pictures should be allowed to submit more
> > pictures especially in a case
> > where you're finding a year where less people
> > are submitting pictures.
> >
> > Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
> them>
> > all.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See
> > http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 18:14:43 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> Adam
>
> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
>
> Gerry
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
> puts the burden of editing on them.
> >
> > Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to submit
> more
> >> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
> people
> >> are submitting pictures.
> >> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
> them
> >> all.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 11:33:15 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> You have two months for two pics.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two images
> puts the burden of editing on them.
> >>
> >> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
> submit more
> >>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
> people
> >>> are submitting pictures.
> >>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
> them
> >>> all.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:30:30 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting more
> than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to put
> in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
>
> So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
>
> Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
> before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You have two months for two pics.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
> > tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
> > >
> > > Gerry
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
> > not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
> images
> > puts the burden of editing on them.
> > >>
> > >> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> > however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
> > admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
> > >>
> > >> Adam
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
> > submit more
> > >>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
> > people
> > >>> are submitting pictures.
> > >>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
> > them
> > >>> all.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Leica Users Group.
> > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Leica Users Group.
> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
>
>
>
> --
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> To: LUG list <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:39:46 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
>
> > On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting
> more
> > than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to
> put
> > in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
>
>
> meaning what?
>
> >
> > So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
> >
> > Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
> > before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> You have two months for two pics.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased to
> >> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
> >>>
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and probably
> >> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
> images
> >> puts the burden of editing on them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> >> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline. I
> >> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
> >>>>
> >>>> Adam
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
> >> submit more
> >>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where less
> >> people
> >>>>> are submitting pictures.
> >>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't accept
> >> them
> >>>>> all.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Leica Users Group.
> >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Leica Users Group.
> >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
> > // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:15:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Book 2015 - Closing Date 2015/12/15
> Meaning that if you are inspired to send in more than 2, feel free. I may
> or may not put in more than 2.
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On Oct 21, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As the care-taker of LUGbook 2015, I would consider people submitting
> > more
> > > than 2 photos. However, it would be up to my discretion on how many to
> > put
> > > in the book: it will be at least 2, but may not be more than 2.
> >
> >
> > meaning what?
> >
> > >
> > > So do feel free to submit more. I will change the next announcement.
> > >
> > > Adam, please send in your submissions at your earliest convenience, but
> > > before Dec 15th 2015. THANK YOU.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Steve Barbour <
> steve.barbour at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You have two months for two pics.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Adam
> > >>>
> > >>> You clearly have not read the subject line correctly - I am pleased
> to
> > >> tell you you have not missed the deadline so you have no excuse!
> > >>>
> > >>> Gerry
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 21 Oct 2015, at 17:29, Adam Bridge <abridge683 at fastmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This places the demand to be a curator - a thankless task and
> probably
> > >> not one most people would sign up for. Having people self-select two
> > images
> > >> puts the burden of editing on them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Somehow I’ve missed the date for submissions. We’re only in October,
> > >> however. Most of us are used to the traditional end-of-year deadline.
> I
> > >> admit that I’ve missed the actual deadline date.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Adam
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 9:12 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think that the people submitting pictures should be allowed to
> > >> submit more
> > >>>>> pictures especially in a case where you're finding a year where
> less
> > >> people
> > >>>>> are submitting pictures.
> > >>>>> Allow the interested people to submit more pix. Perhaps don't
> accept
> > >> them
> > >>>>> all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Leica Users Group.
> > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more
> information
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Leica Users Group.
> > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Leica Users Group.
> > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
> > > // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Leica Users Group.
> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >
>
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
> // https://instagram.com/richardmanphoto
>
>