[Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: If not Lightroom, ...

[Bill Pearce]

I've used Photoshop for about 15 years, or at least it seems so. When I got 
my M9, I downloaded the included Lightroom and gave it a spin. HATED IT!!!. 
Why, I asked myself, should I learn a whole new program, where none of my PS 
knowledge is applicable, for no reason, and I still don't see one. If I 
shoot thousands of photos, then I can see the advantage, but I can take a 
two week trip to Italy or Africa and come home with just a couple of hundred 
frames, so who needs it?

It's bad enough how Adobe changes things and moves things around and 
needlessly renames things with each version, but to be pushed into a whole 
new learning experience for no real advantage?

-----Original Message----- 
From: RicCarter
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:49 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: If not Lightroom, ...

those are the pretty much the ONLY times

ric


> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:38 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>
> Oh yes, I use it for panoramas and layers, but for everyday photography?
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> genuine answers:
>
> panoramas
>
> I like the crop tool that let’s me square up photos
>
>
> ric
>
>
>
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:10 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote:
>>
>> What do you do with your pictures in Photoshop that cannot be done in
>> Lightroom? Genuine question.
>>
>> I have used PS since early versions, looking at 2015 CC there is
>> little comparison to earlier versions so why hark back to LR v1?
>>
>> john
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> I do have Lightroom 1 since 2006 its still loaded on this computer and
>> it was the second version which really made it viable for image
>> processing  as well as browsing and organizing. The image manipulation
>> stuff in this first version is very minimal a few tweaks and they told
>> you up front you'd be for sure opening it in Photoshop with a touch of
>> a button. I think it sold like hotcakes and plenty of people have no
>> intention of opening their images up in anything if they really didn't
>> have to and doing anything to them.  So Lightroom became the digital
>> program for digital photography and they added the world "Photoshop" to
> it.
>>
>> I asked a gal in a café sitting next to me if she used Photoshop. She
>> said yes. She used LightRoom.
>>
>> History of LightRoom:
>>
>> http://www.mosaicarchive.com/2012/10/24/the-history-of-lightroom/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/15 11:25 AM, "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not so Mark.
>>>
>>> Even the first version of Lightroom had most of the photo-relevant
>>> manipulation capabilities of the then current version of Photoshop.
>>>
>>> It did have these functions organised differently, and added a
>>> cataloging system suitable for photographers, but it was by no means
>>> just
>> a browser.
>>>
>>> Who told you that it was a browser with add-ons as an afterthought?
>>> Somebody has been really pulling the wool!
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 14 Oct 2015, at 15:37, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As LightRoom was designed to be a browser which as an afterthought
>>>> had some picture "editing" as in processing: cropping etc
>>>> capabilities put in as an afterthought and then developed with later
>> versions.
>>>>
>>>> Photoshop itself was first designed as a program to make it so you
>>>> could change a Tiff file to a Jpeg or other file formats back and 
>>>> forth.
>>>> When you do that the image would sometimes darken or lighten.
>>>> So they had to put controls in there to tweak that.
>>>> Hence Photoshop. It had another name at first.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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