[Leica] New Monochrome results

Sun May 24 20:03:54 PDT 2015

I can't logically argue with you Jayanand. But I have a Fuji and switching
between the Fuji and the M is really difficult for me. With the M I point
and shoot, basically. After using Ms for over 20 years, I don't think about
what I'm doing: I just look and point.
With the Fuji, it's just difficult! And since I have all this expensive
stuff, I need to use it. I love using it!! Though I miss some shots and
some may not be perfectly focused, when I hit it I love it:
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/rgacpa_HI/Bedtime+Story-2015-04-25.jpg.html

So I can't answer your question other then I just adore shooting my Leica!
So it goes... :-)

On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Bob,
> Why shoot moving grandkids with this stuff, it seems to be overkill. Just
> get a Fuji x100 or a Panasonic LX100 or something equivalent for that
> purpose!
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > The real issue with live view on the Leica is that it opens the
> mechanical
> > shutter when you start live view. Then, when you depress the shutter
> > release button, the Leica closes the mechanical shutter and then fires
> > (opens and closes) the shutter. It's a really big lag IMO. And it doubles
> > the shutter actuations
> >
> > Here's my working theories:
> > 1. The rangefinder mechanism on MY M240 is amazing. That would be the
> > primary reason to get the MM 2 over the MM 1 (the second reason being the
> > noticeably smoother shutter: the M9 chassis has a noticeable shutter
> kick).
> > The M240's rangefinder is greatly improved over the M9 and has held its
> > accuracy for as long as I've owned the camera. It's spot on
> >
> > HOWEVER.... When I shoot handheld wide open and close, even a slight
> > movement by my head will change the focal point, especially on the f/1
> and
> > f/1.4 50mm lenses and the 75 f/2. So I geek: move my neck back and forth
> > while shooting trying to get it right. Especially hard with my moving
> > grandkids. Shutter lag simply defeats the accuracy of any type of
> focusing
> > with these apertures at close distance: using the rangefinder really
> helps
> > because of its tiny lag.
> >
> > 2. With landscapes I tend to do the same thing with my M as I do with my
> > larger system. Focus as best I can, through the viewfinder (and sometimes
> > live view) and then fine tune by using the image review function where I
> > can move the magnified portion around on the screen. With my larger
> system,
> > I am looking at the RAW file: with the M I'm looking at the on screen
> jpeg.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > Here is a Leica-rookie question.  I have seen numerous posts about
> users
> > > sending bodies and lenses back to Leica to calibrate, to avoid back and
> > > front focus issues.  Is this what live view is intended to avoid?  I
> know
> > > even my SLR's have focus issues if I don't calibrate the lenses with
> > > in-camera software.  If there is not an issue with matching bodies and
> > > lenses, yes I would prefer to have rangefinder focus (my last Leica
> long
> > > ago was an M3 with a 35mm Summicron, where it was difficult to make a
> > focus
> > > error though I succeeded at times).  Thx for some enlightenment.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > On 5/24/2015 5:29 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
> > >
> > >> Honestly I find live view useless as implemented in the M240.
> Completely
> > >> useless because of the unbelievable shutter lag for non-landscape
> images
> > >> and inability to move the magnified area of the view around to check
> > focus
> > >> for landscape work.
> > >>
> > >> For the decisive moment you will need to anticipate an additional 1/2
> > sec
> > >> or more in advance. For landscapes you will need to reframe after
> > focusing.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry, but I never use live view. But I own no R  lenses which it may
> > >> actually be useful for per others' experiences I have read.
> > >> Best,
> > >> Bob-The -Grump
> > >>
> > >> Bob Adler
> > >> Robert Adler Photography
> > >> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> > >>
> > >>  On May 24, 2015, at 12:32 PM, George Lottermoser <
> > >>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Live view certainly is what keeps me dreaming about the "upgrade;"
> > >>> while feeling quite satisfied with the "high ISO" of the MM I.
> > >>>
> > >>> a note off the iPad, George
> > >>>
> > >>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Doug Herr <
> wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  The significant upgrade is live view.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Doug Herr
> > >>>> Birdman of Sacramento
> > >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > >>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> Sent: May 24, 2015 8:51 AM
> > >>>>> To: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com>, Leica Users Group <
> > >>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Good writeup here by Erwin Puts. Doesn't seem to be worth the $$...
> > >>>>> Better
> > >>>>> value with the MM-I
> > >>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-50/
> > >>>>>
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