[Leica] New Monochrome results

[Jayanand Govindaraj]

Bob,
Why shoot moving grandkids with this stuff, it seems to be overkill. Just
get a Fuji x100 or a Panasonic LX100 or something equivalent for that
purpose!
Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> The real issue with live view on the Leica is that it opens the mechanical
> shutter when you start live view. Then, when you depress the shutter
> release button, the Leica closes the mechanical shutter and then fires
> (opens and closes) the shutter. It's a really big lag IMO. And it doubles
> the shutter actuations
>
> Here's my working theories:
> 1. The rangefinder mechanism on MY M240 is amazing. That would be the
> primary reason to get the MM 2 over the MM 1 (the second reason being the
> noticeably smoother shutter: the M9 chassis has a noticeable shutter kick).
> The M240's rangefinder is greatly improved over the M9 and has held its
> accuracy for as long as I've owned the camera. It's spot on
>
> HOWEVER.... When I shoot handheld wide open and close, even a slight
> movement by my head will change the focal point, especially on the f/1 and
> f/1.4 50mm lenses and the 75 f/2. So I geek: move my neck back and forth
> while shooting trying to get it right. Especially hard with my moving
> grandkids. Shutter lag simply defeats the accuracy of any type of focusing
> with these apertures at close distance: using the rangefinder really helps
> because of its tiny lag.
>
> 2. With landscapes I tend to do the same thing with my M as I do with my
> larger system. Focus as best I can, through the viewfinder (and sometimes
> live view) and then fine tune by using the image review function where I
> can move the magnified portion around on the screen. With my larger system,
> I am looking at the RAW file: with the M I'm looking at the on screen jpeg.
>
> Does that make sense?
> Bob
>
>
> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > Here is a Leica-rookie question.  I have seen numerous posts about users
> > sending bodies and lenses back to Leica to calibrate, to avoid back and
> > front focus issues.  Is this what live view is intended to avoid?  I know
> > even my SLR's have focus issues if I don't calibrate the lenses with
> > in-camera software.  If there is not an issue with matching bodies and
> > lenses, yes I would prefer to have rangefinder focus (my last Leica long
> > ago was an M3 with a 35mm Summicron, where it was difficult to make a
> focus
> > error though I succeeded at times).  Thx for some enlightenment.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On 5/24/2015 5:29 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
> >
> >> Honestly I find live view useless as implemented in the M240. Completely
> >> useless because of the unbelievable shutter lag for non-landscape images
> >> and inability to move the magnified area of the view around to check
> focus
> >> for landscape work.
> >>
> >> For the decisive moment you will need to anticipate an additional 1/2
> sec
> >> or more in advance. For landscapes you will need to reframe after
> focusing.
> >>
> >> Sorry, but I never use live view. But I own no R  lenses which it may
> >> actually be useful for per others' experiences I have read.
> >> Best,
> >> Bob-The -Grump
> >>
> >> Bob Adler
> >> Robert Adler Photography
> >> www.robertadlerphotography.com
> >>
> >>  On May 24, 2015, at 12:32 PM, George Lottermoser <
> >>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Live view certainly is what keeps me dreaming about the "upgrade;"
> >>> while feeling quite satisfied with the "high ISO" of the MM I.
> >>>
> >>> a note off the iPad, George
> >>>
> >>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  The significant upgrade is live view.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doug Herr
> >>>> Birdman of Sacramento
> >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: May 24, 2015 8:51 AM
> >>>>> To: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com>, Leica Users Group <
> >>>>> lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good writeup here by Erwin Puts. Doesn't seem to be worth the $$...
> >>>>> Better
> >>>>> value with the MM-I
> >>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-50/
> >>>>>
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