[Leica] OKCLUG Goes To Salgado Movie

Mon May 4 07:36:05 PDT 2015

Gerry, I agree with you, but just a question to put things in perspective.
How many prints have you seen from members of this group?
Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
wrote:

> The upcoming Photo London event features platinum prints from the
> ’Genesis’ series by Salgado.Personally, I don’t care how the main
> exhibition prints were made, for me his work and his whole ethos is without
> equal and far above anything I can (or anyone on this list) produce.
>
> Gerry
>
> Gerry Walden
> 023 8046 3076
>
> > On 3 May 2015, at 17:56, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > With Salgado, from what I have read it is a combination of who and
> what.   He (and/or assistants) work on the digital file to taste, have it
> written to a 35mm or larger film negative and printed in the darkroom on
> silver paper.  In addition, as Jayanand noted, I have read that the Genesis
> exhibition prints were inkjet.  Somewhere in the mix I think
> platinum/palladium contact prints were made too for collectors.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On 5/3/2015 9:16 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> >> I meant the guy who does the printing, not the Epson or Hp or whatever
> .... ;-)
> >>
> >> On 03/05/2015 02:12, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> >>> I do not think it depends on the printer, but the guy doing his
> processing - at least Genesis was totally digital, if I am not mistaken.
> Pushing the Shadows and the Highlights sliders to 100% each will get you
> started in the right direction! :-) Seriously, though, that sort of
> overwrought drama is easily possible with Silver Efex Pro, at least.
> >>>
> >>> A large part of the advantage that someone like Salgado has over you
> and me is access - some of the polar photographs in Genesis are taken in
> places that are strictly off limits for mere mortals. The other advantage
> is the ability to hang around as long as it takes to get the shot - but
> that is the difference between a top pro and an amateur...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Jayanand
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On 03-May-2015, at 04:51, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I wonder about that too, Bob. I guess it may be due to the printers.
> >>>>
> >>>> So a question to LUGers, who is the best printer out there at the
> moment?
> >>>> Obviously it depends on taste to some degreee, but I have been
> looking back at
> >>>> AA, HCB and others and I can't find a similar depth in modern digital
> stuff by
> >>>> and large.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 02/05/2015 16:17, Robert Baron wrote:
> >>>>> What you all say about his images and prints is valid for
> discussion, but I
> >>>>> still can't figure out how he (or people working for him) can get
> such wide
> >>>>> tonal ranges and I can't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it an optical illusion?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Bob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Nathan Wajsman <nwajsman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw Genesis in Barcelona in January together with Lluis and my
> friend
> >>>>>> Lars, and we too were somewhat disappointed. Partly there was the
> issue of
> >>>>>> the prints being overdone, but my main gripe was the lack of a
> coherent
> >>>>>> theme—the exhibition is simply too big—and the distance to his
> subjects. In
> >>>>>> many cases, his approach to the people in the photographs is that
> of a
> >>>>>> wildlife photographer. Compared to other major bodies of work by
> Salgado,
> >>>>>> like “Workers”, I found this one below his usual standard.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
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> >>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 02 May 2015, at 07:31, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven’t seen the film, nor had I heard of it until now but I did
> see
> >>>>>> the ‘Genesis’ show in Barcelona last year and was simply stunned by
> the
> >>>>>> imagery and quality of the printing. In my eyes the man is probably
> about
> >>>>>> the best living photographer at the moment for so many reasons, and
> I saw
> >>>>>> gazing at prints in sheer awe of his work.
> >>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gerry Walden
> >>>>>>> 023 8046 3076
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2 May 2015, at 04:27, Robert Baron <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> His flair for the dramatic is discussed in this long piece
> published in
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> Guardian in 2000:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2000/jun/10/photography.art
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't think a DVD of Salt of the Earth is available yet but I'd
> be
> >>>>>>>> surprised if it didn't come out in due time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ====On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <
> >>>>>> jayanand at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would like to buy the DVD. I went to his "Genesis" show in
> London a
> >>>>>>>>> couple of years ago, and was frankly underwhelmed by the prints
> - they
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>>>>> totally over processed, and in my view, mangled beyond reason for
> >>>>>> maximum
> >>>>>>>>> drama.
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> >>>>
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> >>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>
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