[Leica] LUG Family

Mon Mar 23 12:53:18 PDT 2015

Takes me so long to develop a roll these days I sometimes wonder if the
film was mine.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:25 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
wrote:

> I beg to differ - Nathan proved you wrong just today
>
> AMites
> Philippe, whose daughter is spending the weeek in NYC, MRless ;-)
>
>
> Le 22 mars 15 à 20:20, Mark Rabiner a écrit :
>
>
>  I think if we climb on a ladder to get a shot we always think its
>> terrific.
>> But years later we see its boring.
>> We confuse climbing ladders with good images.
>> Climbing ladders do not always a  great image make.
>> Sometimes it better to just stay on the ground and do what you always do!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/15 2:12 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>  On behalf of "look again later," unfortunately had slipped through the
>>> few
>>> brain  cells I still retain..
>>>
>>> In my case I still have  a great......... read huge numbers of
>>> negatives/slides from assignments beginnig 50 years ago and in particular
>>> "special assignments that haven't been looked at in 40 years or more?
>>>
>>> HOWEVER!! It is most essential we go back into those "special keeper
>>> files"
>>> because we will inevitably find some amazing images we passed by because
>>> at
>>> the time, "yes we kind of saw something there but didn't recognize until
>>> later years with 30 more years of "photographic picture SEEING
>>> EXPERINCE!"
>>> And a sense of better editing
>>>
>>> I have often said to myself . 'HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THAT?"  And it is
>>> a
>>> photo  from a previous shoot only 40 years ago. "LENGTH OF TIME WHEN
>>> RE-LOOKING AGAIN?" Can be the most revealing of some of the best photos
>>> you
>>> have ever exposed.
>>>
>>> So on behalf of all and our somewhat barking bit of editing diatribe
>>> please
>>> accept my possible "bite yer bottoms comments!"
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> Sent: March-21-15 10:24 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Family
>>>
>>> I agree with this completely.
>>> I think getting space away from your pictures is invaluable. Giving them
>>> some time off away from you.
>>> To be able to see them later. And make it so you're almost seeing them
>>> for
>>> the first time. I call it regaining my perspective.
>>> Its always what I'm striving for with my work so I can better determine
>>> its
>>> true value.
>>> Shots I'd done the day before all look the same. Pretty Good.
>>>
>>> I think some of this also applies to printing.  You have to see them
>>> later
>>> to know which ones are the ones you want to show people.
>>>
>>> I just finished pissing off a client because I couldn't make editing
>>> decisions until a few days later. And I told him I'd have them for him
>>> in a
>>> couple of days. A couple as in two.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/22/15 12:22 AM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Tina,
>>>> For What It Is Worth. I am not a professional, but I enjoy taking good
>>>> photographs as well.
>>>>
>>>> I, too, end up with 10-15k photographs after every safari. On the road,
>>>> I
>>>> just store them in three different places (External Hard Drive + two
>>>> Hyperdrives). After I return, I do not look at them for 2-3 weeks, a tip
>>>> from John Shaw, because it makes editing them easier as you are more
>>>> divorced from the emotions that you had when taking the shots. After
>>>> that
>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>> sit down and very quickly and ruthlessly prune it down to 1000 shots or
>>>> so
>>>> - and I mean ruthless - any flaw and I junk it, and I completely trust
>>>> my
>>>> first impressions - this just takes me 2-3 days. Then I again leave the
>>>> pruned list for a week or so, then carefully go through it and whittle
>>>> it
>>>> down to a manageable 500 or so. If I miss a few potentially good ones by
>>>> this method, it does not bother me too much.
>>>>
>>>> However, as one of my permanent backups, I keep the entire set of RAW
>>>>
>>> files
>>>
>>>> on one of the drives inside the hyperdrive intact - storage is cheap,
>>>> and
>>>> who knows? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Jayanand
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Well, I have learned over the past few days that the LUG family is just
>>>>>
>>>> as
>>>
>>>> dysfunctional as any real family.
>>>>>
>>>>> I really appreciate the off-list, on-list and phone messages of
>>>>> support.
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>
>>>> would not still be a participant here without them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will not be posting daily photos for review.  I will be posting them
>>>>> on
>>>>> pBase with an update to the LUG whenever I fill a page of photos.  You
>>>>>
>>>> can
>>>
>>>> look or not.  You can comment or not.  I will edit by myself or hire
>>>>> somebody eventually.
>>>>>
>>>>> More than one of you commented that my style of photography has changed
>>>>> since the days of B&W and Noctilux and families in Honduras.  I can no
>>>>> longer travel to Honduras and stay with families for a week at a
>>>>> time.  I
>>>>> can no longer focus the Noctilux.  I am old.  I am still in business
>>>>> as a
>>>>> professional photographer because it's too expensive to be a hobby for
>>>>>
>>>> me.
>>>
>>>> Color sells.  B&W doesn't.  If I could make a living with B&W, that is
>>>>>
>>>> what
>>>
>>>> I would shoot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you to those who understand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-
>>> 4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/
>>> T
>>>
>>>> ina+Manley.html
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photographer
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> the eye. Antoine de Saint Exupéry in Le Petit Prince.
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