[Leica] LUG Family

philippe.amard philippe.amard at sfr.fr
Sun Mar 22 13:25:49 PDT 2015 

I beg to differ - Nathan proved you wrong just today

AMites
Philippe, whose daughter is spending the weeek in NYC, MRless ;-)


Le 22 mars 15 à 20:20, Mark Rabiner a écrit :

> I think if we climb on a ladder to get a shot we always think its  
> terrific.
> But years later we see its boring.
> We confuse climbing ladders with good images.
> Climbing ladders do not always a  great image make.
> Sometimes it better to just stay on the ground and do what you  
> always do!
>
>
>
> On 3/22/15 2:12 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> On behalf of "look again later," unfortunately had slipped through  
>> the few
>> brain  cells I still retain..
>>
>> In my case I still have  a great......... read huge numbers of
>> negatives/slides from assignments beginnig 50 years ago and in  
>> particular
>> "special assignments that haven't been looked at in 40 years or more?
>>
>> HOWEVER!! It is most essential we go back into those "special  
>> keeper files"
>> because we will inevitably find some amazing images we passed by  
>> because at
>> the time, "yes we kind of saw something there but didn't recognize  
>> until
>> later years with 30 more years of "photographic picture SEEING  
>> EXPERINCE!"
>> And a sense of better editing
>>
>> I have often said to myself . 'HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THAT?"  And  
>> it is a
>> photo  from a previous shoot only 40 years ago. "LENGTH OF TIME WHEN
>> RE-LOOKING AGAIN?" Can be the most revealing of some of the best  
>> photos you
>> have ever exposed.
>>
>> So on behalf of all and our somewhat barking bit of editing  
>> diatribe please
>> accept my possible "bite yer bottoms comments!"
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On  
>> Behalf Of
>> Mark Rabiner
>> Sent: March-21-15 10:24 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG Family
>>
>> I agree with this completely.
>> I think getting space away from your pictures is invaluable. Giving  
>> them
>> some time off away from you.
>> To be able to see them later. And make it so you're almost seeing  
>> them for
>> the first time. I call it regaining my perspective.
>> Its always what I'm striving for with my work so I can better  
>> determine its
>> true value.
>> Shots I'd done the day before all look the same. Pretty Good.
>>
>> I think some of this also applies to printing.  You have to see  
>> them later
>> to know which ones are the ones you want to show people.
>>
>> I just finished pissing off a client because I couldn't make editing
>> decisions until a few days later. And I told him I'd have them for  
>> him in a
>> couple of days. A couple as in two.
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/15 12:22 AM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tina,
>>> For What It Is Worth. I am not a professional, but I enjoy taking  
>>> good
>>> photographs as well.
>>>
>>> I, too, end up with 10-15k photographs after every safari. On the  
>>> road, I
>>> just store them in three different places (External Hard Drive + two
>>> Hyperdrives). After I return, I do not look at them for 2-3 weeks,  
>>> a tip
>>> from John Shaw, because it makes editing them easier as you are more
>>> divorced from the emotions that you had when taking the shots.  
>>> After that
>> I
>>> sit down and very quickly and ruthlessly prune it down to 1000  
>>> shots or so
>>> - and I mean ruthless - any flaw and I junk it, and I completely  
>>> trust my
>>> first impressions - this just takes me 2-3 days. Then I again  
>>> leave the
>>> pruned list for a week or so, then carefully go through it and  
>>> whittle it
>>> down to a manageable 500 or so. If I miss a few potentially good  
>>> ones by
>>> this method, it does not bother me too much.
>>>
>>> However, as one of my permanent backups, I keep the entire set of  
>>> RAW
>> files
>>> on one of the drives inside the hyperdrive intact - storage is  
>>> cheap, and
>>> who knows? :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Tina Manley <tmanley at gmail.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, I have learned over the past few days that the LUG family  
>>>> is just
>> as
>>>> dysfunctional as any real family.
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate the off-list, on-list and phone messages of  
>>>> support.
>> I
>>>> would not still be a participant here without them.
>>>>
>>>> I will not be posting daily photos for review.  I will be posting  
>>>> them on
>>>> pBase with an update to the LUG whenever I fill a page of  
>>>> photos.  You
>> can
>>>> look or not.  You can comment or not.  I will edit by myself or  
>>>> hire
>>>> somebody eventually.
>>>>
>>>> More than one of you commented that my style of photography has  
>>>> changed
>>>> since the days of B&W and Noctilux and families in Honduras.  I  
>>>> can no
>>>> longer travel to Honduras and stay with families for a week at a  
>>>> time.  I
>>>> can no longer focus the Noctilux.  I am old.  I am still in  
>>>> business as a
>>>> professional photographer because it's too expensive to be a  
>>>> hobby for
>> me.
>>>> Color sells.  B&W doesn't.  If I could make a living with B&W,  
>>>> that is
>> what
>>>> I would shoot.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to those who understand.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tina Manley
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/
>> T
>>>> ina+Manley.html
>>>>
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