[Leica] Leica Fotographie Magazine downloads......

[Peter Dzwig]

I agree, obviously I wish that he had got Leica's permission. I presume all the
photogs ceded at least some of their rights to Leica.

If he is intending to create an archive of issues for public access and with at
least a reasonable lifespan, then he is performing a service both to the Leica
community and to photography as a whole, using copies which we assume that he
purchased himself.

However I doubt that the archive will have permanence beyond maybe ten years or
so, unless others get involved and Leica give it their blessing.

Obviously I understand your perspective but there is a tension here. If nothing
were done a resource of historical importance - to some, at least -  would be
lost. How do we resolve the issue between preserving an archive of any sort and
copyright in this fast changing world? Private collections always were the route
to preservation. There would after all be no British Museum without the Cotton
Collection and bequest.

Peter

On 08/07/2015 06:18, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> Exactly!
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>> On 08 Jul 2015, at 00:07, Bryan Caldwell <bcaldwell51 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>> The fact that something is out of print does not mean the copyright has lapsed. And, a disclaimer does not establish fair use. If the copyright holder chooses to challenge the use, that will be decided in a court of law. A disclaimer is no defense. Either it is fair use or it isn't. Something reproduced in its entirety tends to argue against fair use. Fair use is much more likely to apply to excerpts from protected material.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Bill Clough <billclough042541 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Jul 7, 2015 10:14 AM
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Fotographie Magazine downloads......
>>>
>>> Went to the download site an d got the 404 message.
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>>> --Bill
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>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Nathan Wajsman <nwajsman at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> OK, looking at this “disclaimer”:
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>>>> “These long out-of-print reference materials are presented under fair
>>>> use—no challenge to any copyright held by Leica Camera is intended.”
>>>>
>>>> My question is answered.
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>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
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>>>> Nathan Wajsman
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>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
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>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
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>>>> YNWA
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>>>>> On 07 Jul 2015, at 07:10, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
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>>>>> Is this legal?
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>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
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>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
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>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator
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>>>>> YNWA
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>>>>>> On 07 Jul 2015, at 07:03, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> Per www.Leicarumors.com
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>>>>>> The website LeicaPhotographyArchive started uploading online scans of
>>>> old
>>>>>> Leica Photography magazines that can be used as a reference for anything
>>>>>> related to Leica cameras and Leitz company. All scanned magazines can be
>>>>>> accessed here. You can add the scans to your Google drive and then
>>>> download
>>>>>> them (total of 876MB so far). This is an ongoing project, so check the
>>>>>> website in the future for new additions to the archive. Here is a
>>>> screenshot
>>>>>> of the currently available issues:
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>>>>>> Go here..
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>>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8lOGuzhswtkfkpycElRWGdNN0NvbjdJek1Y
>>>>>> cHNmVnFyQVJTSUlScURhWTZJdVo1d1JDZGs
>>>>>> <
>>>> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8lOGuzhswtkfkpycElRWGdNN0NvbjdJek1
>>>>>> YcHNmVnFyQVJTSUlScURhWTZJdVo1d1JDZGs&usp=sharing> &usp=sharing
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>>>>>> Frank Filippone
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>>>>>> Red735i at verizon.net
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