[Leica] Leica M8 and M9 Sensor Problems?

Thu Dec 11 17:28:23 PST 2014

The CMOS S should enable you to get those photo subjects out of the strict
confines of a controlled studio environment and into locations with fast
breaking things happening. Its good to have both options available to us..
And not so bad to have it be with the same camera. In the old days we did
both with Hasselblad film cameras.
I am surprised a CCD S is not continuing to be made for tripod studio low
iso work. I'd thought there were some advantages to that. Color purity or
something like that.
I do think both the M 240 and S CMOS are killer cameras the ones to beat in
the coming year and we are around on the ground floor in knowing this or
even using them already.

On 12/11/14 8:15 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark, Leica Camera just use the same name for each model now. The S2 was
> replaced by the S (typ 006) and the new model with the CMOS sensor and a
> lot more upgraded will be the S (typ 007)
> It is in advanced development but not serial production as yet. I would
> guess it will be available during 2015. I have no idea how I would be able
> to pay for it yet, but then I have about 8000 frames with my S2 so far and
> it is hardly worn out!
> By the way the current model S is now cheaper with the identical features,
> a couple of cosmetic changes and a new name S-E.
> Because of what I focus on now, if I need to I will sell every bit of my M
> equipment to get there if I can, maybe 12 months time.
> I think that the new camera will be that good (as would be the new
> Hasselblads etc with their newest sensors).
> I have two superb S lenses already and really need no more for my work.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> 
> On 12 December 2014 at 11:06, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is the S model in development the CMOS S or is that already out. I thought
>> it was already out. If not should be!
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/11/14 7:35 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Using that sensor technology and partnership is continuing for Leica
>> Camera
>>> in any event. It is the basis for the new S model in development as is
>> the
>>> associated processor design.
>>> 
>>> I'll just stick to the boring facts ;-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>> 
>>> On 12 December 2014 at 09:47, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Bob, the rumor mills does say there will be a Monochrom with the T240
>> CMOS
>>>> sensor.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I have my M9 since Feb 2010, and have not have any alignment
>> issue
>>>> with the RF. YMMV.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So I wonder if it's worth getting the MM... It has the M9 rangefinder
>>>>> mechanism that is, frankly, pretty awful in holding alignment compared
>> to
>>>>> the 240 and now the sensor problems. As my Nocti would probably be
>> glued
>>>> to
>>>>> the MM, this is probably show stopper. I can check the Nocti with the
>> 240
>>>>> live view: the RF is still aligned.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any opinions? Is there an MM 240 in the works??
>>>>> Just mulling it all over.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Robert Baron <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right, it is just the M-9, M9-P, M-E and M Monochrom.  I
>> misread
>>>>> the
>>>>>> portion about Past Issues.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 10:25 AM, zoeica at mac.com <zoeica at mac.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> M8 used a different sensor so no affected. Sucks if Leica really knew
>>>>>>> about this when manufacturing was taking place.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, it's nothing new in the digital age. Both Canon and Nikon have
>>>> had
>>>>>>> sensor issues before and both were slow to acknowledge it even though
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was clearly an issue with users.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Williams
>>>>>>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>>>>>>> 504-231-6261
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Robert Baron" <robertbaron1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Leica M8 and M9 Sensor Problems?
>>>>>>> Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 11:16 AM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just stumbled across this and wondered if it had been discussed on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> LUG  (I'm a very sporadic reader lately):
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://lavidaleica.com/content/new-leica-ccdgate-scandal-afoot
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is a pretty long piece but if you read it to the bottom you'll
>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>> find some troubling - if true - information.  On the other hand, this
>>>>> all
>>>>>>> may just be 'the cost of doing business' in the digital age.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Bob
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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>>>>> 
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