[Leica] LUG & Blurb question

Tmanley tmanley at gmail.com
Sat Nov 29 18:46:20 PST 2014 

What?? I think there was a copy problem. I have been in every single LUG book so far !!!

Tina

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> On Nov 29, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Steve Barbour
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> On Nov 29, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Tmanley <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I hope not. :-(  I would hope that the appreciation would trump the aggravation. I've never done the LUG book 
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> Forgive me for asking Tina please, but we see so many of your images, why have you chosen not to contribute to the LUG book?
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> steve
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> but I have done many non-profit fund-raising projects and that has usually been true.  The aggravation can be overwhelming but it ALWAYS turns out to be worth it. 
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>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com> wrote:
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>> I stand corrected (and should have checked all eight editions)--you were
>> indeed in '06 and '07.
>> 
>> However, you've just given a superb reason why I had no further interest
>> in producing the yearbook.  I was sick of your garbage, and similar
>> diatribes from non-contributors (at least within the 2010s).
>> 
>> Prattle on!  You have every right to do so.
>> 
>> Jim
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 6:59 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question
>> 
>> I was in the first two issues, Ted. Two pix each all taken with Leica
>> cameras. All taken the same year they were published.
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>>> On 11/29/14 6:57 PM, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> AND FROM THE DARKENED HALLS OF THE PAST.................. A MAJOR
>>> BITE!!!!!!! And the quiet was deafening!
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr.ted
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Jim Shulman
>>> Sent: November-29-14 3:26 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question
>>> 
>>> The way I think about it is that in order to proffer suggestions you
>>> should be a part of the yearbook.
>>> As in as a participant.
>>> 
>>> I checked the 2013 yearbook, and checked it twice.
>>> You didn't submit a thing.
>>> I checked the 2012 yearbook, and checked it twice.
>>> You didn't submit a thing.
>>> Same for 2011.  I didn't go back any further, but to the best of my
>>> knowledge the LUG yearbooks have yet to be graced by your images.
>>> 
>>> Did it ever occur to you, Mark, that you're part of the problem?
>>> Geoff and, for eight years, I received lots and lots of suggestions,
>>> gripes, requests, and relatively few entries.  I noted that the people
>>> with the greatest number of suggestions, or gripes about the
>>> admittedly elementary submission guidelines, were almost never
>> contributors.
>>> 
>>> So put up or shut up.  There's still about a half-month to submit your
>>> images.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG
>>> [mailto:lug-bounces+jshulman=judgecrater.com at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:12 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] LUG & Blurb question
>>> 
>>> They way I think about it is if you're going to do something why not
>>> let more than just a few people see it? I love books I'm about to hit
>>> some bookstores this afternoon made a list checking it twice but for
>>> every person who reads and looks at paper there's thousands who are
>>> getting the same words and pix as pixels.
>>> I love PDF 's. I think the guy you invented them should get the Noble
>>> Peace prize. If I'd gone to the trouble to layout a photo book such as
>>> this it would drive my crazy not being able to press the "make PDF
>> button"
>>> in the end. If you think about it the preview software which lets
>>> people peek into the book on the website has kind of done that.
>>> I think when people know ahead of time that the layout will be
>>> electronically disseminated few if any would have a problem with that.
>>> If they do let them rot in their own hells.
>>> People want to  see their book on their iPad's  and iPhones.
>>> More importantly they want to never put their iPad's and iPhones down.
>>> They want to keep staring at them.
>>> Let them.
>>> 
>>> That said I don't think the reason behind a LUG book such as this is
>>> to make money. How many extra copies did they sell does anyone know?
>>> If there really is a market for a book such as the LUG Yearbook than
>>> in electronic form I'd wager that market would be 100x.  ... To 1000x.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/28/14 11:15 PM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I did a test convert of another non-related photobook that I edited
>>>> and published an eBook version as a test. I don't have my iPad with
>>>> me to check as yet, but it looks like it should work fine on IOS
>>>> devices, not just iPads.
>>>> When you buy you get a download link in a mail to be opened on the
>>>> device where you want to download it. In other words, one download,
>>>> one
>>> device.
>>>> I shall report in when I get that test on on my (first) iPad which
>>>> went to a family meber who will like to have that particular book.
>>>> 
>>>> My intent introducing the eBook this year was to broaden the sales
>>>> while each copy (print or electronic) will generate exactly the same
>>>> markup for Jim's charity. As a glass half full approach I hope that
>>>> people will enjoy having the printed volume on their shelf to enjoy
>>>> and perhaps add an eBook to their order.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I have no connection with all eight books that Jim did with
>>>> us of course, except to be in them all.
>>>> I would note that it does require some work to convert each book and
>>>> then publish it.
>>>> Of course it is entirely up to Jim on whether this option (not always
>>>> available) is worth doing and if he wants to be pushed out of
>>>> retirement to work again on any of those eight!
>>>> For whatever my opinion is worth, I thinks it's a big ask on Jim
>>>> after eight years of a lot of work for us all.
>>>> 
>>>> Don't blame me, Jim, sorry. I hope my decision for THIS year will
>>>> mean more copies sold than we would have otherwise and more money to
>>>> your
>>> charity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 November 2014 at 13:12, Jay Burleson <leica at jayburleson.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Looking at a post today and a question was asked about the proposed
>>>>> e-book version of this years book.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I am wondering, is if the previous years books can be changed
>>>>> in Blurb to add an e-book option?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It would be a way for folks to add to their collection at a
>>>>> reasonable cost, plus add some more to the donation funds.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any ideas, Jim?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jay
>>>>> 
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