[Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom! GET A DIGILUX 2?

Sun Sep 21 00:38:03 PDT 2014

I still shoot film so... XD

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
wrote:

> Richard and Dr. Ted,
>
> I was about to offer the same comment as Richard, since most shooters want
> the latest and greatest.  But, I would add, that I have an Olympus E-1,
> with a sensor quite similar to that of the Digilux 2, from the same time
> period, and I frequently turn to it for snapshot work, because it produces
> beautiful images.
>
> I suspect that during our working years, we would only dream of something
> with this kind of capability.
>
> Times change...................
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
>
>
> On 9/20/2014 11:40 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
>> Uncle Ted, the Digilux 2 is now 10 years old! So most digital shooters
>> have
>> moved on the newer machines at least 4 generations newer :-)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>  HI CREW!
>>>
>>> I'm so excited by the zero response about the wonders of the LEICA
>>> DIGILUX
>>> 2!!! :-) :-)
>>>
>>> And here we've had great babble sessions about the new hot-dog B&W model
>>> Leica's. I did expect at least one comment on the DIGILUX 2 and the most
>>> interesting qualities using it as a B&W camera digital long before all
>>> these
>>> new hot-dog B&W LEICA's came on the market. I suppose the reason for no
>>> responses are?????? Only a few of us have them and or use them.
>>>
>>> And when we have something that works extremely well while allowing us to
>>> see our B&W images in the view-finder
>>> as a B&W scene before you click! Are there no Leica-fans out there with
>>> some
>>> kind of comment, ACTUALLY GOOD BAD OR LOUSY?
>>>
>>> The most interesting parts about the DIGILUX 2 is....... The view-finder
>>> showing your image in complete B&W configuration! You immediately see it
>>> in
>>> B&W and does it "LOOK COOL? Or not?" To CLICK OR NOT? IF YOUR A B&W
>>> PERSON
>>> I
>>> truly feel you'll enjoy shooting B&W simply because you see the image in
>>> B&W
>>> and it captures a pretty good quality photo without any fiddling
>>> switching
>>> from colour to B&W.
>>>
>>> As I said earlier, it makes pretty good 13X19 print size, auto-focus and
>>> auto-aperture. As well MACRO-AUTO FOCUSING THROUGH OUT the full range of
>>> focus.
>>>
>>> Jeeeesh I'm beginning to sound like a LEICA sales-man! :-) :-) I do like
>>> the
>>> camera very much as it's quick to use on so many assignment subjects
>>> rendering a very fine image quality..
>>>
>>> So OK CREW come on, surely somebody has a word or two on this most
>>> interesting camera????? GOOD, BAD OR WHY NOT?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr, ted :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Ted Grant
>>> Sent: September-19-14 11:13 PM
>>> To: 'Leica Users Group'
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
>>>
>>> HI CREW,
>>> I'm going to ask a real dumb ass question about the LEICA DIGILUX 2! I
>>> bet
>>> not many of you have one nor used one before your eye?
>>>
>>> This camera can shoot black & white and through the view finder the scene
>>> or
>>> situation you are viewing is B&W! WOW WHAT A NEAT SCENE! CLICK!
>>>
>>> Yes it is! And is most fascinating when you move your eye away from the
>>> viewfinder While doing this you can become sort of mesmerized seeing
>>> everything as a black and white world. And that's before you've even
>>> tripped
>>> the shutter capturing your not bad at all BLACK & WHITE photo moment.
>>> Quite
>>> amazing really! YEP! Makes not bad 17" X 19" prints!
>>>
>>> Move the camera away from your eye and quick as a penny dropping you are
>>> flashed back into your natural "COLOUR WORLD!"
>>>
>>> And you know what?????????? The B&W looks quite cool in print! The
>>> interesting thing I found so fascinating was seeing B&W images in the
>>> viewfinder before you went "CLICK!" Look-up and my goodness right before
>>> your eye it's snapped back to colour!
>>>
>>> So now dumb-ass question? Do all these super hot shot new B&W LEICA'S do
>>> that for their multi thousands of dollars? Show you the world before you
>>> in
>>> B&W?? Or do they just show you nothing more than the same old crap....
>>> "The
>>> world in colour...... but captures the image in B&W????????  BIG DEAL AND
>>> FOR HOW MANY THOUSANDS??????"
>>>
>>> Or through the view finder you view our natural colour world... but on
>>> the
>>> back screen you have a black & white image???????
>>>
>>> If it doesn't let you see in B&W through the view finder? Heck why waste
>>> your money buying one of those when just a few hundred dollars you can
>>> have
>>> a magical machine that allows you to see your photo as  a pure
>>> B&W............. BEFORE YOU GO CLICK!
>>>
>>> SO BIG DEAL ON ANY MONO LEICA! Heck it doesn't allow you to see how your
>>> potentially beautiful B&W shot looks before you go CLICK!!  I think there
>>> might be a few interesting responses on this???????
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Dr. ted :-) :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> Sent: September-19-14 6:31 PM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
>>>
>>> It just doest come any dumber than this.
>>>
>>> I think the purpose of the article is not to make an intelligent point
>>> but
>>> simply to drum up some attention
>>>
>>> We need to get smarter and ignore such stuff. But here I am typing away!
>>>
>>> The idea is that because you can shoot black and white jpegs with
>>> consumer
>>> quality cropped color fuji camera which can be in black and white mode
>>> and
>>> since the fuji camera has a rangefinder in it than it is a replacement or
>>> alternative for a Leica Monochrome. A camera which makes monochrome raw
>>> files from a monochrome sensor.
>>> In other words a consumer grade cropped color sensor replaces a full
>>> frame
>>> Monochrom sensor professional grade sensor.
>>>
>>> One could say that nothing makes any difference no matter what you do.
>>> Its
>>> all a big giggle.
>>>
>>> I see the title of the article is " The Fuji Monochrom"
>>> The problem being that its a color camera.
>>>
>>> One can always sell ones Leica M for a very nice Pentax Spotmatic and use
>>> the extra many to take a short vacation but have we "replaced" our M?
>>> It implication is that we are using the word to say the cameras are
>>> mainly
>>> interchangeable. Whatever a Leica M can so so could a Spotmatic pretty
>>> much
>>> just as well.
>>> And I think Leica users and most of the rest of the world knows that
>>> that's
>>> not likely the case.
>>>
>>> Its like how the word "backup" gets used.
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/14 10:30 AM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I see a huge difference in the files from my Monochrom and the color
>>>> files
>>>>
>>> from the M240 converted to B&W.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM,
>>>
>>>> George Lottermoser <
>>>>
>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  The Fuji cameras
>>>> obviously deliver beautiful digital files; at an
>>>> extremely affordable price
>>>> when compared to the Leicas which they emulate.
>>>> And essentially this article
>>>> says, "here's a nice camera, that looks almost
>>>> just like a leica, which can
>>>> turn it's RGB files into Grayscale files (just
>>>> like every other digital
>>>> camera available).
>>>>
>>>> Of course the same points could be made for my M8, and
>>>> M; or the M9, M-E;
>>>> or if you let go of the range finder < any mirror-less
>>>> camera on the market.
>>>>
>>>> a note off the iPad, George
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at
>>>> 6:54 AM, Douglas Nygren via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Attached
>>>>>
>>>> is a link to an article describing using the Fuji X100s to do
>>>> black and
>>>> white photograph.
>>>>
>>>>> Given the high cost of the Monochrom, this may be a
>>>>>
>>>> good alternative.
>>>> X100S is a camera Leica should have made, but didn't.
>>>>
>>>>  I look forward to reading your comments.
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>> The Fuji
>>>>>
>>>> Monochrom By James Conley
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley
>>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley A major impediment most new
>>>>>
>>>> photographers face is that color is the default mode of expression. Not
>>>> only
>>>> are we inundated by ...
>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>>
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