[Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom! GET A DIGILUX 2?

Sat Sep 20 23:49:46 PDT 2014

Richard and Dr. Ted,

I was about to offer the same comment as Richard, since most shooters 
want the latest and greatest.  But, I would add, that I have an Olympus 
E-1, with a sensor quite similar to that of the Digilux 2, from the same 
time period, and I frequently turn to it for snapshot work, because it 
produces beautiful images.

I suspect that during our working years, we would only dream of 
something with this kind of capability.

Times change...................

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 9/20/2014 11:40 PM, Richard Man wrote:
> Uncle Ted, the Digilux 2 is now 10 years old! So most digital shooters have
> moved on the newer machines at least 4 generations newer :-)
>
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ted Grant <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> HI CREW!
>>
>> I'm so excited by the zero response about the wonders of the LEICA DIGILUX
>> 2!!! :-) :-)
>>
>> And here we've had great babble sessions about the new hot-dog B&W model
>> Leica's. I did expect at least one comment on the DIGILUX 2 and the most
>> interesting qualities using it as a B&W camera digital long before all
>> these
>> new hot-dog B&W LEICA's came on the market. I suppose the reason for no
>> responses are?????? Only a few of us have them and or use them.
>>
>> And when we have something that works extremely well while allowing us to
>> see our B&W images in the view-finder
>> as a B&W scene before you click! Are there no Leica-fans out there with
>> some
>> kind of comment, ACTUALLY GOOD BAD OR LOUSY?
>>
>> The most interesting parts about the DIGILUX 2 is....... The view-finder
>> showing your image in complete B&W configuration! You immediately see it in
>> B&W and does it "LOOK COOL? Or not?" To CLICK OR NOT? IF YOUR A B&W PERSON
>> I
>> truly feel you'll enjoy shooting B&W simply because you see the image in
>> B&W
>> and it captures a pretty good quality photo without any fiddling switching
>> from colour to B&W.
>>
>> As I said earlier, it makes pretty good 13X19 print size, auto-focus and
>> auto-aperture. As well MACRO-AUTO FOCUSING THROUGH OUT the full range of
>> focus.
>>
>> Jeeeesh I'm beginning to sound like a LEICA sales-man! :-) :-) I do like
>> the
>> camera very much as it's quick to use on so many assignment subjects
>> rendering a very fine image quality..
>>
>> So OK CREW come on, surely somebody has a word or two on this most
>> interesting camera????? GOOD, BAD OR WHY NOT?
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dr, ted :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ted Grant
>> Sent: September-19-14 11:13 PM
>> To: 'Leica Users Group'
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
>>
>> HI CREW,
>> I'm going to ask a real dumb ass question about the LEICA DIGILUX 2! I bet
>> not many of you have one nor used one before your eye?
>>
>> This camera can shoot black & white and through the view finder the scene
>> or
>> situation you are viewing is B&W! WOW WHAT A NEAT SCENE! CLICK!
>>
>> Yes it is! And is most fascinating when you move your eye away from the
>> viewfinder While doing this you can become sort of mesmerized seeing
>> everything as a black and white world. And that's before you've even
>> tripped
>> the shutter capturing your not bad at all BLACK & WHITE photo moment. Quite
>> amazing really! YEP! Makes not bad 17" X 19" prints!
>>
>> Move the camera away from your eye and quick as a penny dropping you are
>> flashed back into your natural "COLOUR WORLD!"
>>
>> And you know what?????????? The B&W looks quite cool in print! The
>> interesting thing I found so fascinating was seeing B&W images in the
>> viewfinder before you went "CLICK!" Look-up and my goodness right before
>> your eye it's snapped back to colour!
>>
>> So now dumb-ass question? Do all these super hot shot new B&W LEICA'S do
>> that for their multi thousands of dollars? Show you the world before you in
>> B&W?? Or do they just show you nothing more than the same old crap.... "The
>> world in colour...... but captures the image in B&W????????  BIG DEAL AND
>> FOR HOW MANY THOUSANDS??????"
>>
>> Or through the view finder you view our natural colour world... but on the
>> back screen you have a black & white image???????
>>
>> If it doesn't let you see in B&W through the view finder? Heck why waste
>> your money buying one of those when just a few hundred dollars you can have
>> a magical machine that allows you to see your photo as  a pure
>> B&W............. BEFORE YOU GO CLICK!
>>
>> SO BIG DEAL ON ANY MONO LEICA! Heck it doesn't allow you to see how your
>> potentially beautiful B&W shot looks before you go CLICK!!  I think there
>> might be a few interesting responses on this???????
>>
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted :-) :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Mark Rabiner
>> Sent: September-19-14 6:31 PM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Alternative to the Monochrom
>>
>> It just doest come any dumber than this.
>>
>> I think the purpose of the article is not to make an intelligent point but
>> simply to drum up some attention
>>
>> We need to get smarter and ignore such stuff. But here I am typing away!
>>
>> The idea is that because you can shoot black and white jpegs with consumer
>> quality cropped color fuji camera which can be in black and white mode and
>> since the fuji camera has a rangefinder in it than it is a replacement or
>> alternative for a Leica Monochrome. A camera which makes monochrome raw
>> files from a monochrome sensor.
>> In other words a consumer grade cropped color sensor replaces a full frame
>> Monochrom sensor professional grade sensor.
>>
>> One could say that nothing makes any difference no matter what you do. Its
>> all a big giggle.
>>
>> I see the title of the article is " The Fuji Monochrom"
>> The problem being that its a color camera.
>>
>> One can always sell ones Leica M for a very nice Pentax Spotmatic and use
>> the extra many to take a short vacation but have we "replaced" our M?
>> It implication is that we are using the word to say the cameras are mainly
>> interchangeable. Whatever a Leica M can so so could a Spotmatic pretty much
>> just as well.
>> And I think Leica users and most of the rest of the world knows that that's
>> not likely the case.
>>
>> Its like how the word "backup" gets used.
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/14 10:30 AM, "Tina Manley" <tmanley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I see a huge difference in the files from my Monochrom and the color
>>> files
>> from the M240 converted to B&W.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:25 AM,
>>> George Lottermoser <
>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Fuji cameras
>>> obviously deliver beautiful digital files; at an
>>> extremely affordable price
>>> when compared to the Leicas which they emulate.
>>> And essentially this article
>>> says, "here's a nice camera, that looks almost
>>> just like a leica, which can
>>> turn it's RGB files into Grayscale files (just
>>> like every other digital
>>> camera available).
>>>
>>> Of course the same points could be made for my M8, and
>>> M; or the M9, M-E;
>>> or if you let go of the range finder < any mirror-less
>>> camera on the market.
>>>
>>> a note off the iPad, George
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2014, at
>>> 6:54 AM, Douglas Nygren via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attached
>>> is a link to an article describing using the Fuji X100s to do
>>> black and
>>> white photograph.
>>>> Given the high cost of the Monochrom, this may be a
>>> good alternative.
>>> X100S is a camera Leica should have made, but didn't.
>>>
>>>> I look forward to reading your comments.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> The Fuji
>>> Monochrom By James Conley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley
>>>> The Fuji Monochrom By James Conley A major impediment most new
>>> photographers face is that color is the default mode of expression. Not
>>> only
>>> are we inundated by ...
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