Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2021/06/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Glad to hear that there are no real problems. Sometimes I get the impression that these warnings are purposefully put in to scare customers into buying new computers. Frank On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 1:16 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> wrote: > Big thank you to all who replied, especially Frank and Sonny. > > The "Device is not migrated" message may not be a problem at all. There > are numerous articles on the Web, all giving the same possible > troubleshooting steps, none of which work for many people. Microsoft has > never officially defined precisely what this message means, according to > an IT pro on an MS Help forum. The advice on several dozen Web sites is > that if you get this message and the device doesn't work, follow the > troubleshooting steps: The newest device drivers, newest chipset > drivers, a system file check, latest BIOS, and reset to default BIOS > settings. If that doesn't solve the problem, buy new hardware. What's > also interesting is that sometimes this error occurs after a Windows > update, when the device was working fine up until then. And it has > occurred on Microsoft's own hardware. > > So, what if the device *does* work? MS forums have the same advice: > Spin your wheels with fixes that don't work, do a clean install of > Windows, and then give up and buy new hardware. > > Now for an interesting wrinkle. I decided to go through Device Manager > thoroughly and check for "migration" issues on other devices. My wife's > computer is much newer than mine. It's a plain-vanilla Dell with no > extra stuff added beyond a wireless card. Guess what? Some of her > hardware also show "device was not migrated," including the > motherboard's built-in USB controllers. Same thing on my computer. Yet > everything has been working fine since I "upgraded" both our computers > to Win10 last September. > > My semi-educated guess is that there is some sort of checklist MS uses > for hardware and drivers that ensure absolute 100% compatibility with > all the latest and greatest in their updates. Some of these checklist > standards are too strict--a device that doesn't pass with a 100% score > will still work fine. But, perhaps for legal reasons, MS puts a message > in an obscure tab a couple of levels down in Device Manager, where no > one but hard-core techies go. And they do NOT show this as a true > error. There is no yellow warning triangle, and you don't find the > events in any of the standard Event Viewer logs. In other words, what we > don't know won't hurt us, but MS' legal posterior is covered, because > they "warned" us. It also encourages hardware manufacturers to > absolutely comply with MS standards, and encourages us to buy new hardware. > > It's almost enough to make a guy go to LINUX. Almost. That way lies a > different madness... :-) > > --Peter > > ---------- > Frank Filippone wrote: > > > I would follow Sonny's advice. > > > > Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name > is on > > it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes the > chips.? > > The design complete with the PCB layout and any required firmware is > given > > to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the chips.? This the > > support is flaky but the design is probably good.? Asking for assistance > > will get you nowhere.? They know nothing. > > > > If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.? What you have is > pretty > > old.? Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it will start > > going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for the new SW.? > > Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a properly > working, > > out > > of date, old computer. > > > > Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that > you > > start watching > > > > https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet > > > > It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries > returned and > > overrun computers at really big discounts.? After you decide WHAT to > buy, > > wait.? They run sales all the time....? My Dell (XPS8930) cost me > about 35% > > of its list price. Warranty is same as new. Buy when you get to the > price > > you want for the model you want.? The inventory changes all the > time.... so > > if something looks really good, it may not repeat.... > > > > Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead > > issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....? > I have > > a > > preference for Intel processors.... > > > > Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you > might find > > 32GB.? DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!! > > > > Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.? Speed and expense is not > > required in most cases.? This includes photo editing.? video cards are > > designed > > by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based on price.? > > Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers. > > > > Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.? Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm > HDD for > > your main storage.? Do this yourself.? There are lots of places to buy > > them, including Amazon. > > > > Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW > > anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may > need one. > > > > Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon. > > > > > > If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me..... > > > > > > Frank Filippone > > BMWRed735i at Gmail.com > > On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote: > > > My guess is to let it go, if it?s working. On the other hand, if > you have > > > the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and > you can > > > save your apps and files. > > > > > > I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct > driver > > > and install the card. > > > > > > If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do > anything > > > else. > > > > > > (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10 > crash > > > that wouldn?t let me repair.) > > > > > > SonC > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Summary: The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died this > > >> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart > > >> 2-port card. The replacement appears to work fine. But Device > Manager > > >> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous match." > > >> Should I be worried? > > >> > > >> Details: I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe > card, $13 > > >> from Amazon. My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450 GB > > >> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional > x64. The > > >> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980 > > >> owners have successfully upgraded. Mine has been happily running > Win10 > > >> since last year. I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to download > > >> files from my camera SD cards. > > >> > > >> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager > > >> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the > > >> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my > > >> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and > > >> various flash drives. Speeds appear comparable with the old card. > A 2GB > > >> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and > from > > >> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit > > >> compares of all these files showed no errors. > > >> > > >> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The > > >> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads very > > >> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021). I have tried > > >> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same > result. I > > >> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles. No help. I > > >> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply: > > >> > > >> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it > have some > > >> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way > to > > >> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done." > > >> > > >> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software." > Ummm, no. > > >> > > >> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since > the card > > >> works. So at this point, I can just run with the current card unless > > >> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card > > >> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a > Canadian > > >> company). Throwing much more money than that at the problem is > probably > > >> not worth it. I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but I'd > > >> like to get a bit more life out of it for now. > > >> > > >> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered. Thanks! > > >> --Peter > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Frank Filippone BMWRed735i at gmail.com