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Subject: [Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 23:58:10 -0500
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Apple is good, but I have a doorstop that proves it?s not infallible.  When
it went south, the repair bill would have been half the cost of a new one.

That said, I love their phones and pads.

SonC

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:12 PM Philippe via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Been on an Apple a daysince 2006 or so, and it has kept the doc away.
>
> For what it?s worth ...
>
>
> Good luck with the other side of personal computers ;-)
>
>
> Amities
>
> Philippe
>
>
>
> > Le 8 juin 2021 ? 19:55, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> a ?crit :
> >
> > Thanks Sonny, Jayanand and Frank. I agree the graphics card needs up
> dating.  It's 1GB and I intended to go to 2GB, just as I will go with 16GB
> Ram. the CPU is an Intel i5 4 core. In the past, I have updated pcs, so the
> tech stuff holds no fears for me. While I've often thought of building my
> own pc, I have a son working for Dell, so that can be useful. I am aware of
> the resellers. Unfortunately, Ireland is a small market, and with the
> pandemic, there are difficulties in getting supplies easily. That should
> ease, of course as long as we don't get a massive Delta variant problem and
> shut down again.
> >
> > My biggest worry is that the old spinning disk hard drive will crash, so
> I intend cloning it onto an SSD fairly quickly. Only problem being I'm
> extraordinarily busy just at the moment which probably means I'm doomed to
> TBSOD.
> >
> > Douglas
> >
> >
> > On 08/06/2021 00:14, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
> >> Douglas, In my opinion, you'd find more bang if you put the money into a
> >> good 8gb graphics card instead of Ram memory.  Both is a good idea as
> Frank
> >> pointed out, but 16gb is adequate with memory on the card.
> >>
> >> Windows doesn't contain so much bloatware, it is just that the
> >> manufacturers load stuff in that slows it all down.  Win 10 is a solid
> >> operating system and like any of them, always back up, and keep a recent
> >> image of your computer on an unconnected hard drive.
> >>
> >> A good way to go is a custom build machine at a good computer shop.
> It's
> >> really not that hard to build them yourself, but a knowledgeable nerd is
> >> always a good thing in this territory.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sonny
> >> http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
> >> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> >> 1714
> >> Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase
> >>
> >> USA
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 5:22 PM Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Interesting take, Frank. I have a stuttering Windows 10 Dell Inspiron
> >>> 3847 with 8GB ram which is struggling to cope with Lightworks video
> >>> editing software.
> >>> Ideally, I'd like to get a new pc with 32GB ram, but I've decided to
> get
> >>> 16GB of ram for it instead. I know I should really get rid of Windows
> >>> which is stuffed full of bloatware. I'm beginning to veer into a
> >>> paranoid hatred for Windows "We say it's not so much an operating
> >>> system, and much more a service, but the reality it's a giant fat toad
> >>> sitting on your back".
> >>>
> >>> Am I heading up the wrong fork in the road?
> >>>
> >>> Douglas
> >>>
> >>> On 07/06/2021 04:40, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> >>>> I would follow Sonny's advice.
> >>>>
> >>>> Most of the aftermarket cards are designed not by the guy whose name
> >>>> is on it nor the selling company but rather by the company that makes
> >>>> the chips.  The design complete with the PCB layout and any required
> >>>> firmware is given to anyone that wants to build using (BUYING!!!) the
> >>>> chips.  This the support is flaky but the design is probably good.
> >>>> Asking for assistance will get you nowhere. They know nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> If it were me, I would start looking for a new PC.  What you have is
> >>>> pretty old.  Not that that means anything but the SW you put on it
> >>>> will start going flaky because the old FW and BIOS is not "right" for
> >>>> the new SW.  Ditto USB 3.0 ports etc..... there is no such thing as a
> >>>> properly working, out of date, old computer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now it may sound easy for me to spend your $$$ so let me suggest that
> >>>> you start watching
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/dfh/shop/dell-refurbished/cp/outlet
> >>>>
> >>>> It is the official outlet store for Dell products, and carries
> >>>> returned and overrun computers at really big discounts.  After you
> >>>> decide WHAT to buy, wait.  They run sales all the time....  My Dell
> >>>> (XPS8930) cost me about 35% of its list price. Warranty is same as
> >>>> new. Buy when you get to the price you want for the model you want.
> >>>> The inventory changes all the time.... so if something looks really
> >>>> good, it may not repeat....
> >>>>
> >>>> Get a 8 Core Intel processor.....but the speed is pretty much a dead
> >>>> issue.... you will not need blazing speeds here....Pick by price....
> >>>> I have a preference for Intel processors....
> >>>>
> >>>> Get the maximum amount of RAM possible, usually 16GB.... but you might
> >>>> find 32GB.  DO NOT BUY A 8GB SYSTEM!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> Get a mid-"weight" 4gb or 8gb graphics card.  Speed and expense is not
> >>>> required in most cases.  This includes photo editing.  video cards are
> >>>> designed by the chip suppliers, and with some options, again buy based
> >>>> on price.  Nvidia and AMD are the 2 main suppliers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Storage.... get a 1-2TB main HDD or an SSD.  Add a 2-14TB 7200 rpm HDD
> >>>> for your main storage.  Do this yourself.  There are lots of places to
> >>>> buy them, including Amazon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Skip the DVD and CD drives..... no one uses them to distribute SW
> >>>> anymore.... but for your existing music or other purposes , you may
> >>>> need one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do not buy add on SW... you can get it from Amazon.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone needs help in specific selection, please contact me.....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> >>>> On 6/6/2021 4:57 PM, Sonny Carter via LUG wrote:
> >>>>> My guess is to let it go, if it?s working.  On the other hand, if you
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> the install drive, for win 10, it gives you a repair option, and you
> can
> >>>>> save your apps and files.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think the clean system install will let windows find the correct
> >>>>> driver
> >>>>> and install the card.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you feel shaky about that, maybe image your drive before you do
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>> else.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (Sez the guy who just had to do a full clean install after a win 10
> >>>>> crash
> >>>>> that wouldn?t let me repair.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SonC
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 9:32 PM Peter Klein via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Summary:  The old Transcend 2-port USB 3 PCIe card in my PC died
> this
> >>>>>> past week. It worked fine for years. I replaced it with a FebSmart
> >>>>>> 2-port card.  The replacement appears to work fine. But Device
> Manager
> >>>>>> says that it's "not migrated due to to a partial or ambiguous
> match."
> >>>>>> Should I be worried?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Details:  I just installed a "FebSmart" FS-U2-Pro USB 3.0 PCIe card,
> >>>>>> $13
> >>>>>> from Amazon.  My computer is a Dell Optiplex 980, 8 GB memory, 450
> GB
> >>>>>> SSD system drive, 2000 GB data drive, Windows 10 Professional x64.
> The
> >>>>>> Optiplex 980 is not officially compatible with Win10, but many 980
> >>>>>> owners have successfully upgraded.  Mine has been happily running
> Win10
> >>>>>> since last year.  I use USB 3 to back up my computer, and to
> download
> >>>>>> files from my camera SD cards.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I keep getting the error "Device not migrated" in the Device Manager
> >>>>>> entries for the Renesas USB 3.0 Host Controller and Hub. Despite the
> >>>>>> error, the USB card appears to work correctly. I can use it with my
> >>>>>> Seagate portable hard drive (for backups), a SDI card reader, and
> >>>>>> various flash drives.  Speeds appear comparable with the old card. A
> >>>>>> 2GB
> >>>>>> copy of RAW camera files from a card reader to my hard drive, and
> from
> >>>>>> the hard drive to my backup USB drive all went flawlessly, and bit
> >>>>>> compares of all these files showed no errors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The FebSmart card was supplied with a driver dated 2011(!). The
> >>>>>> manufacturer's web site has the exact same driver. Windows loads
> very
> >>>>>> recent Microsoft drivers (late 2020 and 2021).  I have tried
> >>>>>> uninstalling and reinstalling both drivers, and I get the same
> >>>>>> result. I
> >>>>>> tried the remedies mentioned in various Web articles.  No help. I
> >>>>>> contacted the manufacturer and got the following reply:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Hello,I suggest you relaod System,for brand PCs some times it have
> >>>>>> some
> >>>>>> limitations . Some brand PCs do not accept the device ,it is no way
> to
> >>>>>> add it on . But if you reload systems all problems will be done."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In other words, "just reinstall Windows and all your software."
> >>>>>> Ummm, no.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Frankly, I'm not sure that the error message isn't bogus, since the
> >>>>>> card
> >>>>>> works.  So at this point, I can just run with the current card
> unless
> >>>>>> something truly goes wrong, or replace it with a $20 Inatek card
> >>>>>> (Chinese company), or a $37 StarTech card (made in Taiwan for a
> >>>>>> Canadian
> >>>>>> company).  Throwing much more money than that at the problem is
> >>>>>> probably
> >>>>>> not worth it.  I'll probably replace the PC in a year or two, but
> I'd
> >>>>>> like to get a bit more life out of it for now.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any thoughts or suggestions happily considered.  Thanks!
> >>>>>> --Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com <http://sonc.com/look/>
Natchitoches, Louisiana
1714
Oldest Permanent Settlement in the Louisiana Purchase

USA


Replies: Reply from photo.philippe.amard at gmail.com (Philippe) ([Leica] OT: USB 3 PCI card claims "not migrated, " but still works)
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